(Testimony of Jack L. Ruby)
Mr. Ruby.
I haven't read a Wall Street Journal in the longest time--in years, probably.
Mr. Herndon.
Do you wish to keep that question in, Mr. Specter?
Mr. Tonahill.
Jack, was there a man named Bradshaw, your landlord?
Mr. Ruby.
No; Houston Nichols was my landlord, but I know a Bradshaw. He used to be in the pinball game machine business.
Mr. Tonahill.
A jukebox man?
Mr. Ruby.
Yes; everybody knows him.
Mr. Specter.
What is his first name, Mr. Ruby?
Mr. Ruby.
I don't know, but he owned a liquor store and he's a pretty successful businessman.
Mr. Specter.
Was a Wall Street Journal addressed to Mr. J. E. Bradshaw, dated November 16, 1963, in your ear at any time?
Mr. Ruby.
No, sir.
Mr. Specter.
Have you ever heard of any such Wall Street Journal having been found in your car?
Mr. Ruby.
No.
Mr. Specter.
We will rephrase that question too. Let's try this: "Do you have any knowledge of a Wall Street Journal addressed to Mr. J. E. Bradshaw being found in your car?"
Mr. Ruby.
No; did they find one somewhere in my car?
Mr. Specter.
Proceed, please, Mr. Herndon.
Mr. Herndon.
"Did you or any of your friends telephone the FBI in Dallas between 2 or 3 a.m. Sunday morning?"
Mr. Ruby.
How could I--I was incarcerated? Oh, Sunday morning?
Mr. Herndon.
Some people might refer to that as Saturday night.
Mr. Ruby.
I don't know. I know I went to bed about 1:30, so I can't answer that.
Mr. Specter.
Make that "To your knowledge"----
Mr. Ruby.
No.
Mr. Specter.
"To your knowledge, did any of your friends"--do so and so?
Mr. Herndon.
I think in that way you should be able to answer "Yes" or "No".
"Did you or any of your friends telephone the sheriff's office between 2 or 3 a.m. Sunday morning?"
Mr. Ruby.
No.
Mr. Herndon.
Again, I can rephrase that--"To your knowledge--" if you wish?
Mr. Specter.
Make it--"Did you or any of your friends, to your knowledge, phone the sheriff's office?"
Mr. Ruby.
No.
Mr. Herndon.
And then, some of these questions I will ask you again here, such as, "Did you previously live in San Francisco?"
Mr. Ruby.
Yes.
Mr. Herndon.
I understand you did.
I'm going to ask you this question, which will help me, and that is, "In your dealings, Mr. Ruby, as a nightclub operator, at any time have you ever overcharged a customer?" I assume there are some times when you probably are at the cash register, is that correct, and you are handling the transaction of money with customers or with the bills.
Mr. Ruby.
No.
Mr. Herndon.
You understand what I mean by "overcharge"?
Mr. Ruby.
We have a very lucrative business in champagne there, the kind of business that--Bill Alexander knows about it--they get merchandise received for what they get. It's quite lucrative and that's one way you can survive, I guess.
Mr. Herndon.
I'll just simply ask the question, "Did you ever overcharge customer?"
Mr. Ruby.
No.
Mr. Herndon.
I'll probably ask you questions for your identity, like "Is your name Jack Ruby?" at the beginning of these series.
Mr. Ruby.
Yes.
Mr. Herndon.
Let's see, gentlemen, I believe we've gone over all these questions,
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