Mr. Herndon.

You've done very well thus far, Mr. Ruby, as far as cooperating on the examination.

Mr. Ruby.

OK. What happens now?

Mr. Herndon.

We're going to take a break and give you a little rest. Now, if you will just lean forward and raise your arms, I will take this equipment off of you.

Mr. Ruby.

I'm not hungry, jailer.

Mr. Holman.

Do you want to go lie down?

Mr. Ruby.

We only have a 20-minute break. That's all.

Mr. Herndon.

Might I suggest to the jailer that you might like to sit at another chair and change your position?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes.
(Reporter's note: 4:45 p.m.)
(The proceedings were in recess at this time from 4:45 p.m. to 6:25 p.m.)

Mr. Specter.

May the record now show that it is 6:25 p.m. and that we have adjourned for a period of 1 hour and 40 minutes, during which time Mr. Ruby has had an opportunity to rest. Is that correct, Mr. Ruby?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes.

Mr. Specter.

Mr. Ruby has just asked me about the presence of reporters downstairs, and would you get this in the record, Miss Oliver. Would you repeat what you just said to me, Mr. Ruby?

Mr. Ruby.

Are you going to make any announcement to them?

Mr. Specter.

Yes; and you asked me to speak freely about this matter?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes.

Mr. Specter.

My view is that we should, in view of the circumstances, as I have been told--there are a large number of reporters downstairs, and I've discussed this with Mr. Fowler and Mr. Tonahill, and it's our joint view that there should be an announcement made that you have requested a polygraph examination and that we have conducted one under the auspices of the President's Commission through the cooperation of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, that there has been extensive examination and the results, of course, cannot yet be known at this date, but they are to be taken to Washington and studied for future action by the Commission.

Mr. Ruby.

Let's make it clear that Mr. Tonahill don't represent me. Joe, let's have that understanding?

Mr. Tonahill.

Clayton is going to make whatever announcement is made for you, Jack.

Mr. Ruby.

Joe, let's have that understanding, will you please, Joe?

Mr. Fowler.

Jack, we'll have no difficulty with that, don't worry about that.

Mr. Specter.

The substance of what I just said was discussed by me with Mr. Fowler and it is our thought that, that would be an appropriate statement to make at this particular time. That's about as far as we can go. Do you concur in the advisability of that?

Mr. Ruby.

Now, with reference to hedging on questions and so on, don't you think some comment should be made that I wasn't reluctant in answering any of the questions that were put to me?

Mr. Specter.

I think that would be a fair comment to make, if you want that statement made?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes; I think so.

Mr. Alexander.

That's there was cooperation. That he was cooperative.

Mr. Specter.

Yes; that he was cooperative.

Mr. Ruby.

On all questions on anything and everything pertaining to anything.

Mr. Specter.

Mr. Ruby, in view of your interest in that disclosure, I think that would be appropriate to be made.

Mr. Alexander.

That without reservation, he cooperated fully.

Mr. Ruby.

I wanted to be more specific, that I wanted to be asked.

Mr. Specter.

Well, I said that initially. In other words, that it is at your request that we had conducted this, so that it would be clear that you took the lead in initiating this examination, which is the fact, and we will state the fact or give you the credit in that direction, just as it is the fact.

Mr. Ruby.

But the point I wanted to bring out was that I wanted to specify