Mr. Ruby.

Yes; any questions you want to ask, anything pertaining to this--I will answer anything without reluctance. There's no punches to be pulled. I want to answer anything and everything.

Mr. Specter.

Mr. Fowler, I think, wants to make a statement for the record too.

Mr. Ruby.

In fact, Bill, you can stay here if you want to.

Mr. Fowler.

Jack; let me ask you this: A little while ago I came up into the jail cell and talked with you, is that correct?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes.

Mr. Fowler.

And at that time I advised you that the Warren Commission people were here at your request to give you a polygraph test?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes.

Mr. Fowler.

I also showed you a letter from Mr. Gordon Shanklin of the FBI here in Dallas, that he had received requests that were submitted to him by Mr. Sol Dann, who is the legal advisor to your family?

Mr. Ruby.

Right.

Mr. Fowler.

And that certain requests were made there, No. 1, that the tests would be given in the presence of Dr. Tanay, with no outsiders present, with particular reference to anyone from the district attorney's office or the sheriff's office, and further, that it would have to be assured that the results of the tests would be held confidential by the Commission, and that under no circumstances made available to the district attorney or the press. Further, that written authority for such examination be obtained from Mr. Earl Ruby. Now, I have explained this to you, have I not?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes; can I change that now?

Mr. Fowler.

Well, let me go on further, Jack, and as your attorney of record, at that time I advised that you not take nor submit to this polygraph test.

Mr. Ruby.

Yes.

Mr. Fowler.

And at this time, as your attorney of record, I advise you in the presence of these gentlemen and Commission, these people representing the Commission, that you will be doing so against the advice of your counsel.

Mr. Ruby.

Right.

Mr. Fowler.

And against the advice and wishes of your family.

Mr. Ruby.

Right.

Mr. Fowler.

Now, do you still at this time wish to take the tests?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes; and I would also like to add that, if I have a right to say this--I want it be made immediately that the district attorney's office should receive whatever is necessary in regard to the answers to the district attorney, and as I once wrote to District Attorney Henry Wade, that I didn't want to publicize it, but if possible they may--I would prefer that naturally, but at that time it was so easy to get a lie detector test, I wrote to Henry Wade; that it is not for publicity purposes but only for authenticity and the truth. So, I agree with everything except that if I may supersede the attorney and say I'm not concerned about withholding anything. I want it to be released immediately to all parties concerned.

Mr. Specter.

Well, your request on that, Mr. Ruby, will be transmitted to the, Commission and they will consider that very carefully in reaching whatever conclusion they do about releasing it.

Mr. Ruby.

I want to supersede the attorney, Mr. Dann, in stating that I want everything to come out immediately, as soon as possible, and whoever wants to know the results--what the results are---I want it to be known, regardless of which way it turns.

Mr. Specter.

Mr. Ruby, you want Mr. Fowler to remain with you during the course of the examination?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes.

Mr. Specter.

In view of Mr. Ruby's request, it is my view their it ought to be honored and that the group is of such a size now that it ought to remain as it is constituted at the present time for both sessions.
We have done our best to limit it, but since it is a legitimate request here to include Mr. Fowler, we will sit in this group during all portions of the test.