Mr. Ruby.

They are correct as far as that is concerned.

Mr. Hubert.

Have you any changes or any suggestions or modifications in any way that you wish to make with respect to that statement?

Mr. Ruby.

Well, I think he has them.

Mr. Burleson.

On page 6; in previously going over this, Mr. Hubert, I think there are some things he would like to comment on and I will ask him about it.

Mr. Hubert.

All right, sir.

Mr. Burleson.

On page 6, the first paragraph--there is a statement that "This man's name was Leo, last name unknown. Jack fired this man because he said he was stealing from him."
I'll ask you whether or not you now have found out or since that time, have found out Leo's last name?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes; I found out his name.

Mr. Burleson.

What is that?

Mr. Ruby.

Torti [spelling] T-o-r-t-i; I believe is the way he spells it.

Mr. Burleson.

And as to the second statement there about Jack firing this man, do you now know that that was not the situation?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes; I found out that he was not quite competent as Jack would have him and there were a few things that he didn't take care of, in other words, when my brother told him to do it and he neglected to do a few things.

Mr. Burleson.

And that was the reason for the firing of Torti rather than stealing?

Mr. Ruby.

Right.

Mr. Burleson.

And subject to that correction you told Mr. Hubert, everything else appeared to be correct, as I understand it, now?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Is it correct to state that when you made the statement that you have just modified on page 6 of Exhibit No. 1 that you had the impression that the man had been fired because he had been stealing from Jack and that impression has been clarified since that; is that correct?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

How was it clarified?

Mr. Ruby.

Well, since talking to Jack and at the time Jack mentioned a few things that--when I come to the club, which I did a few times to visit him and see the show and to watch the admission being taken and put in the register properly, and that gave me the impression that maybe he just wanted to see that maybe Leo didn't forget to do those things.

Mr. Hubert.

You have since talked to your brother Jack and he has clarified this matter, so that you are now able to state that your present understanding is that it was not because of an allegation of stealing. but rather because he was incompetent; is that correct?

Mr. Ruby.

Right; and Jack's idea about managing the club.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, I show you another report of an interview of you by FBI Agent Alfred Sayres on November 27, 1963, which I have marked for identification as follows: "Dallas, Texas, May 29, 1963, Exhibit No. 2, deposition of Sam Ruby," and I have signed my name and all of which appears in the right margin of this one page document and I ask you the same question with respect to that, that is, if it is correct?

Mr. Ruby.

Which paragraph is that?

Mr. Hubert.

The entire document--I am speaking of the entire document--I think you have just read it.

Mr. Burleson.

That's the one you said was all right.

Mr. Ruby.

I think I recall when Jack was hospitalized, I think it was in Chicago.

Mr. Burleson.

All right, let me ask you a question--in regard to the second paragraph which says--"He said he knows of no time when Jack Ruby has ever -been hospitalized for any reason." Does something come to -your mind in reference to the hospitalization of Jack?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes; he was struck in back of the head, I think he was scalping tickets at one of the sporting events--at football or one of those events in Chicago-and the police officer told him not to scalp, told him to leave the premises where the sporting event was being held, and Jack refused to do so,