Mrs. Grant.

what people think. He had kissed the President's picture in front of me---right in front of me like a baby, and he held that card prayer and his lawyers have seen him, and I don't know what denomination they all are we don't go that way. He just held that card there, there's a little pocket in there all he knows---let me put it this way--it maybe was in back of his mind something that I don't know or nobody knows, but he loved the President, but he had no idea of doing this. In the first place----

Mr. Hubert.

It wouldn't do any good, I don't believe, for you to give your opinions.

Mrs. Grant.

All right.

Mr. Hubert.

If you know from what he told you, that's another matter, but you say he has not told you that?

Mrs. Grant.

This was a shock out of my wits.

Mr. Burleson.

Let me ask you this--he didn't tell you that, then?

Mrs. Grant.

No.

Mr. Burleson.

Now, something we haven't gone into and might be relevant to this--Jack had a great acquaintance with the police, didn't he?

Mrs. Grant.

Far greater than the average citizen of this city, unless they were a wife of a man.

Mr. Burleson.

Could you tell us what Jack's attitude was toward the police?

Mrs. Grant.

They were very friendly, he admired them, he thought they were good people. On many occasions some policeman would have a night off and he would want to take his wife out on his anniversary and it's in between paydays, Jack would let him have $10 and he would say, "I'll write a check" and so Jack didn't want to take the check and sometimes he would hold it 6 years and this check was still in there which they can see among his possessions. He admired the police department. He was very close. In fact, he entertained them in the club on their nights off and I'm positive some have been out to his apartment.

Mr. Burleson.

Do you know whether or not Jack knew Officer J. D. Tippit?

Mrs. Grant.

He said he knew a Tippit but it's like me there was a Tipton, a Tippit, and a Tipin (spelling) p-i-n, and a Tipton, and as far as I was concerned, even when Payton was talking to me, they were all the same man, until much later I found out there are three Tippits, there is a Tipton and a Tipin.

Mr. Burleson.

Did Jack, during the period November 22 through the last time you talked to him on the 23d or the 24th of November, say anything to you about the fact that Officer Tippit was killed?

Mrs. Grant.

Yes; on. Saturday evening, during this 4-hour period I was very sick and I, of course I was physically Sick besides mentally sick now over the assassination of the President, and we talked about the Governor being shot and different things and he says, "You think you will be all right to go to the funeral," but I was so sick.

Mr. Burleson.

Did he say what funeral?

Mrs. Grant.

Oh, yes; he meant the policeman's funeral---Tippit's. Of course, a lot of people don't know--he went to all of the policemen's funerals and, of course, there has been a few funerals--if it was a member of their families and if he knew the fellows he would go. He was that kind. He tried to pay his respects to people.

Mr. Burleson.

But he did have a conversation about Tippit?

Mrs. Grant.

Yes.

Mr. Burleson.

What did he say about Tippit being killed?

Mrs. Grant.

He said, "You think you will be all right--and this was Saturday, and I said, "Yes," and he said, "Well, do you think you will be all right?" And I hollered back like----I said, "Yes--yes," and not to bother me. I was too sick--I didn't even want to think of it, but I'll be honest, all the time he's talking to me I had it in my mind--"I'm not going, I'm too sick and I know I ain't going to feel good Monday," see.

Mr. Burleson.

In other words, he told you he had planned to go to Tippit's funeral on Monday?

Mrs. Grant.

That's right--no; he didn't say "Monday", he did not say Monday he didn't say the date.

Mr. Burleson.

Whenever it was?

Mrs. Grant.

He said to the funeral.