Mrs. Grant.

has any tapes on me, it should be in on the tape of the day of the verdict, and I was so sick over the verdict and having this.

Mr. Hubert.

You did not recognize the voice that made the threat against Belli?

Mrs. Grant.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Were you asked to convey that information to Belli?

Mrs. Grant.

No; no.

Mr. Hubert.

How long did that conversation last; do you know?

Mrs. Grant.

Not over 3 or 4 minutes. It was the other party speaking. This happened the afternoon--the day my brother got his horrible verdict.

Mr. Hubert.

That was Saturday afternoon, March 14?

Mrs. Grant.

That's right; March 14.

Mr. Hubert.

About what time of the afternoon was it?

Mrs. Grant.

I would say after 2:30---sometime between 2:30 and 4, it seems.

Mr. Hubert.

It was a one-sided conversation, I take it?

Mrs. Grant.

Practically.

Mr. Hubert.

And the essence and the gist of the conversation was that if Mr. Belli did not leave town he would be injured?

Mrs. Grant.

The voice said something like this, "Mrs. Grant?" I says, "Yes." He said, "If Melvin Belli knows what's good for him, he had better leave town. They are going to kill him." Now, I don't know--this man didn't sound like a child and he didn't sound like an imbecile.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you ask him who he meant by "they"?

Mrs. Grant.

I'll tell you the truth, I was so shocked at the verdict, and before I knew it he was off--I was hanging on the phone there by myself.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he indicate to you in any way who "they" were?

Mrs. Grant.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Or who was going to kill him?

Mrs. Grant.

No. Oh, now I want to tell you about--going back to Monday, which would be the 16th, there was conversation and, of course, I think I heard this Sunday too.

Mr. Hubert.

That's March 16?

Mrs. Grant.

I think March 16 was on a Monday.

Mr. Hubert.

That's correct.

Mrs. Grant.

But I may have heard this Sunday, that the sheriff--and there has been threats against Belli--and this is another thing I know, whether someone is on my phone and leaked it out--it wasn't me, that the sheriff is going to give Belli a guard out of town, that he has been threatened, but I already knew that. Then, I got to thinking about all of this and I says, "I hope he leaves, I don't want to have this on my mind," but, I knew when I was in his suite of rooms--somebody called there Monday afternoon sometime and he went to the phone for a minute; as a rule someone else was answering the phone, and then he went in the bedroom there and he answered the phone. He had quite a suite of rooms--three rooms, I think, and the remark among the people there they said the sheriff is going to give him a guard, you know, escort him out of town.

Mr. Hubert.

You mean you heard that that afternoon.

Mrs. Grant.

Too, but it wasn't--I already had known that from the conversation Saturday afternoon, it didn't look good.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he comment upon this telephone call that he answered himself?

Mrs. Grant.

No; he hardly did any talking that afternoon.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, you mentioned the telephone call, I wonder why you did so, that is to say, what import you had put on it?

Mrs. Grant.

You want to know the truth?

Mr. Hubert.

Yes; I want to know the truth.

Mrs. Grant.

I Was not thinking anything about it but he is coming back for a trial and I told Phil recently, I thought he was going to get his trial transferred from the Texas Bar Association and I guess he can't. I wasn't going to say anything about it--I figured--he's never coming back, but now I am a little scared. I wouldn't like anything--look, you don't want a lawyer in a case?

Mr. Hubert.

Let me finish about this phone call--is there any other significance