Mr. Burleson.

On Saturday, the times that Jack was in your house, do you recall if he watched any television?

Mrs. Grant.

No--very little. Saturday he came in with three pictures, and at the left hand corner, they were postal card pictures and he told me what he did. He went home and he couldn't sleep--he got Larry out of bed and George Senator, and I thought he was nuts, I'll be honest with you about it, so help me.

Mr. Hubert.

Who?

Mrs. Grant.

I thought my brother Jack- was plain nuts.

Mr. Burleson.

Is that when he went out in the middle of the morning and took the pictures?

Mrs. Grant.

That's right; and he didn't know exactly where he saw it--that was the worst part of it and Larry told me that later on when they found him, he came back to it and they drove around and waited for daylight and he showed Larry how to take the pictures.

Mr. Burleson.

You are talking about the "Impeach Earl Warren" sign?

Mrs. Grant.

That's right--all of this got in Jack's mind that some Communist--no, no---he didn't use the word "Communist". I think he said "Some outfit or some lousy guy," or something was putting up signs like that.

Mr. Burleson.

Did Jack tell you what he was going to do with this picture?

Mrs. Grant.

Yes.

Mr. Burleson.

What?

Mrs. Grant.

First, he showed it to me three little pictures.

Mr. Burleson.

You actually saw the pictures?

Mrs. Grant.

Yes--I saw them--they are postal cards--laying out on my white table. They were this big (indicating).

Mr. Burleson.

These are pictures of "Impeach Earl Warren" signs?

Mrs. Grant.

Yes; and they looked like the American flag.

Mr. Burleson.

And it was on this Polaroid film?

Mrs. Grant.

The camera is still at my house, so that's the same camera, I'm sure.

Mr. Burleson.

All right.

Mrs. Grant.

It was like a postal card picture. It seems to me in the left hand corner was that, and at the bottom it said, "Belmont-- Impeach Earl Warren," and a box number and it said, "Belmont, Massachusetts."

Mr. Burleson.

What did Jack tell you as he showed you those pictures?

Mrs. Grant.

He called Stanley because he had a lot of faith in him.

Mr. Burleson.

Stanley who?

Mrs. Grant.

Stanley Kaufman; an attorney. This is another wonderful American, and he said, "Stanley," and he told him about the pictures and then he talked to me, he says, "You know what, I went down to the post office and the newspaper box--the post office box----"

Mr. Burleson.

The newspaper box of Bernard Weissman's ad?

Mrs. Grant.

Yes--"It's so stuffed with mail," he said to the clerk, and you can find out now which clerk this is, and on the 23d he was there at 6 or 7 o'clock in the morning and Larry and Senator should know the time I really don't know that--but it seems to me that's what he said.
First of all, he figured that a gentile is using that name to blame all this on a Jew--about that ad, and then he analyzed the ad on Saturday and he saw the black border.

Mr. Burleson.

Will you tell me what Jack said he was going to do with these pictures?

Mrs. Grant.

He talked to Stanley and he was going to take them to the FBI--Monday, the first thing.

Mr. Burleson.

Was he also going to take them to Mr. Gordon McLendon who was the operator of KLIF?

Mrs. Grant.

Yes; he said he was going up there that night. Whether he did or was there or not, I don't know.

Mr. Burleson.

Did he mention at that time did he mention Mr. McLendon's name, that Mr. McLendon does these editorials on radio station KLIF?

Mrs. Grant.

Yes--he was very close to Gordon.

Mr. Burleson.

All right.