Mr. Hubert.

But there was no close relationship between Jack and People with criminal records, is that right? Is that a fair statement?

Mrs. Grant.

If he knew any--maybe I don't know whoever went to jail--all of them.

Mr. Hubert.

No; I'm asking you what you know about it. Let me put it this way: Do you know of any people who were friendly with Jack, not merely knew him, but who were friendly with Jack, who you knew and he knew had a criminal record?

Mrs. Grant.

Well, I wouldn't say he was unfriendly with them.

Mr. Hubert.

I didn't ask you that--I'm asking you--was he friendly with any of them?

Mrs. Grant.

Well, he wasn't associated socially or in business, yet you saw them--they were around. If you went to a nightclub or if you went to a bazaar.

Mr. Hubert.

No; I mean did they come to the home?

Mrs. Grant.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Did they come and visit you and such as that ?

Mrs. Grant.

No.

Mr. Burleson.

May I inject something in there--Jack didn't visit in their home and they didn't visit in yours and you didn't have anything to do with them; is that correct?

Mrs. Grant.

Even their sisters or brothers who were nice, we didn't have anything to do with them, yet we knew they turned out to be some pretty rough characters and I'm not going to deny that--Sam Yeres and Dave Yeres--let me say this, I knew of more than he knew.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know of any contacts that he may have retained with any of these people after he left the Chicago area?

Mrs. Grant.

We saw them--and we encountered them--we talked.

Mr. Hubert.

Did they come to Dallas?

Mrs. Grant.

Oh, no---nobody I know. I know one did--wait a minute--Sam Yeres did.

Mr. Hubert.

When did he come to Dallas?

Mrs. Grant.

I don't know--many years ago, but he is since dead and his brother is in Chicago.

Mr. Hubert.

Let's take the last 8 or 9 or 10 years.

Mrs. Grant.

He may have died 10 years ago, for all I know.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know of any people of the nature or character which you have described whom Jack may have known in the Chicago district whom he contacted or who contacted him in the past 10 years--to your knowledge if you don't know, you don't know.

Mrs. Grant.

If they have, I didn't know they were here, but I doubt if he would be friendly with them.

Mr. Hubert.

The answer is that you really don't know?

Mrs. Grant.

I really don't.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you want to ask anything about this segment?

Mr. Burleson.

Yes, please.
Mrs. Grant, your father only had one brother, is that correct?

Mrs. Grant.

He had a lot of brothers--they died in the old country. The only brother that came here as far as I knew was that one.

Mr. Burleson.

Was the one you told us about?

Mrs. Grant.

Yes.

Mr. Burleson.

Now, the juvenile court contacts that you and your brothers and sisters had were all a result of a broken home and not as a result of any type of misbehavior?

Mrs. Grant.

There has never been any criminal action in my family as much as I know.

Mr. Burleson.

Now, as to Jack's recent last 10 years, you know of no contacts he has had either in person or by telephone----

Mrs. Grant.

I want to correct that.

Mr. Burleson.

With any person of an undesirable or criminal element?

Mrs. Grant.

Well, the way you look at it--now, the AGVA is a highly recognized organization in the world--it is the Actor's Guild and Jack had a lot of