Mrs. Grant.

canceling their ads, you know, complete commercial ads and subscriptions and the place was a madhouse. He was in the Dallas Morning News--he went there. you see

Mr. Burleson.

To this statement. though, that I have just quoted--your answer is what?

Mrs. Grant.

Yes; but he did call me from there he was there.

Mr. Burleson.

That morning?

Mrs. Grant.

That's right--he was in the Dallas Morning News and John knew---

Mr. Burleson.

So, when you use the word "contacted"----

Mrs. Grant.

They used that word--that isn't even my word.

Mr. Burleson.

He had some contact with them is really my question--whether ,by being there in person or by telephone?

Mrs. Grant.

He bawled John Newman out.

Mr. Burleson.

All right; I think that clarifies that.

Mrs. Grant.

He said, "What in the hell?" And he says, "Well, I take orders from my superiors," that's what Jack said.

Mr. Burleson.

Is that the only change or the only thing that you want to add on the first page?

Mrs. Grant.

Now, you see, let me explain this--he didn't talk to the Times Herald until later in the day, as far as I know.

Mr. Burleson.

All right; let me ask you this---you are now talking about, in the second paragraph, starting with, "She advised that he told her he had called the Times Herald Newspaper in Dallas and they had advised him that they had turned down and refused to accept the same advertisement." What about that?

Mrs. Grant.

Well, it seemed to be later in the day when all the commotion had died down and----

Mr. Burleson.

Later on Friday?

Mrs. Grant.

The same Friday, and if I know him, he probably was using the Dallas Morning News phone because he didn't leave there until 1:30.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, is there anything else you want to revise or change on page 1?

Mrs. Grant.

Well, I would say they were at--you know, they came with that ad and they turned it down and that's about it. It's in there.

Mr. Burleson.

Is there anything else on page 1?

Mrs. Grant.

Well, that part there that he contacted----

Mr. Burleson.

Well, we have already gone over that.

Mrs. Grant.

He was in the Dallas Morning News when all this took place. It was the greatest commotion in history in that office, and he was crying, and he was standing against the wall, and he said there were people----

Mr. Burleson.

All right; is there anything else though?

Mrs. Grant.

No.

Mr. Burleson.

Off the record.
(Discussion between Counsel Burleson and the witness, Mrs. Grant.)

Mr. Burleson.

Now, on the record. On page 2, Mrs. Grant, are there some changes or revisions that you might want to make in connection with that? I direct your attention specifically to this statement, "He informed that early Thursday morning, November 21, 1963, Jack Ruby, as was his custom, placed advertisements in both Dallas papers concerning the entertainment to be offered at the Carousel and Vegas nightclubs, Dallas, Texas, which clubs he had an interest in." Now, in reference to that, what do you want to add in reference to that? Was that actually the morning of the 22d after midnight of the 21st?

Mrs. Grant.

Well, there are many weeks out of the year he would go in on--which is Friday morning after 2:30 in the morning and it seemed to me this was an unusual week. I have been away from the Vegas Club which I usually take care of, but he went to the Vegas Club to pick up money and he was on the phone half of the night, he said, calling for a band.

Mr. Burleson.

But this date----

Mrs. Grant.

So, he never got that--that's the wrong date.

Mr. Burleson.

That date really should be early Friday morning, November 22, 1963?