Mr. Ruby.

Well, they could win a box of candy or win a pen set, I think it was.

Mr. Hubert.

What area did you operate in as to the Earl Products Co.?

Mr. Ruby.

Well, I operated it through Earl Mail, more or less, through advertising in the Billboard Magazine, and I shipped in, it wasn't a large operation, but I shipped out of State all the way across the country. I don't remember the States, but I did ship quite a few States over the years.

Mr. Hubert.

And you were alone at the time?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes, I was by myself then.

Mr. Hubert.

Did your brothers ultimately join you?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes; as my brothers came out of the service, I took them in and gave them a piece of the business. First Sam came out.

Mr. Hubert.

Did they invest?

Mr. Ruby.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Or they just came in?

Mr. Ruby.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

They didn't put up any money?

Mr. Ruby.

When. Sam came out, I gave him half interest. Then when my oldest brother came out----

Mr. Hubert.

That is Jack?

Mr. Ruby.

No; Hyman. And then I took him in. Then when Jack came out, then I took him in. So we were all together for not too long because it just wasn't enough for all of us.

Mr. Hubert.

You all were sharing the profits?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Equally?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

It was not on a salary or commission basis?

Mr. Ruby.

I think we were sharing that equally. I am quite sure.

Mr. Hubert.

Tell us what happened to the company?

Mr. Ruby.

Well, then my brother Hyman left us, and then there was Jack, Sam, and myself left.

Mr. Hubert.

What did Hyman leave for? What was the reason for his leaving?

Mr. Ruby.

There just wasn't enough money, and you know when there is not enough money we have a few arguments in the family, so he decided to leave.

Mr. Hubert.

What business did he go into?

Mr. Ruby.

I don't remember. I think he went himself in some company.

Mr. Hubert.

Then there were three of you. What happened then?

Mr. Ruby.

Then my sister Eva had been in Dallas for, oh, a few years, and she had been writing to Jack and telling him how good it was down there.

Mr. Hubert.

What was she doing, do you recall?

Mr. Ruby.

Running a nightclub. I think it was called the Silver Spur.

Mr. Hubert.

And then?

Mr. Ruby.

So Jack and Sam had an argument, and so we just couldn't get along, so we decided to buy Jack out.

Mr. Hubert.

That is to say you and Sam decided to do that?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes, yes, yes; and we then bought him out. I think we paid him something like $14,000 or $15,000, 14,000 and some hundred dollars, and he left for Dallas, and he remained there until the incident happened.

Mr. Hubert.

When he had the argument with Sam which led to his leaving the Earl Products Co., did he intend then to go to Dallas? Was that one of the causes for his leaving?

Mr. Ruby.

I don't know what was in his mind. I don't remember. I just don't know.

Mr. Hubert.

How was he paid?

Mr. Ruby.

We paid him a lump sum, about $14,000 or $15,000, so when he left he had quite a bit of money.

Mr. Hubert.

In cash?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes; he had quite a bit of money.

Mr. Hubert.

And he left for Dallas shortly thereafter?

Mr. Ruby.

Yes; very shortly thereafter he left.