Mr. Crafard.

I believe once at the Carousel Club and I believe I saw him at the Vegas Club one time.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall now the time you saw him at the Carousel, when was that?

Mr. Crafard.

He come in in the afternoon and talked to Jack.

Mr. Griffin.

And do you recall how long he stayed?

Mr. Crafard.

He wasn't there very long, maybe 15 or 20 minutes at the most.

Mr. Griffin.

And do you recall what he talked about with him?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe it was something about, had something to do with who was in charge of the band at the Carousel or the Vegas Club or something of that sort. I am not positive.

Mr. Griffin.

How about the time that you think you saw him at the Vegas Club.

Mr. Crafard.

I believe one night when I went over with Jack he was there. He played at the Vegas Club. I am trying to get it straight. I think he was a guitar player. No; wait a minute, a horn player, saxophone player I believe it was. And this buddy of his, they had an act where the buddy lay down across two chairs and he stepped up on his buddy's chest and he stood on his buddy's chest playing his horn.
I believe that was Bobby Patterson. I am not positive.

Mr. Griffin.

Could this guy have been a police officer?

Mr. Crafard.

No; I am very doubtful of that.

Mr. Griffin.

You didn't know any Bobby Patterson who was a police officer?

Mr. Crafard.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

And there is no question that you had met a guy named Bobby Patterson.

Mr. Crafard.

No question there; no.

Mr. Griffin.

Would Andy Armstrong know Bobby Patterson?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes; I believe he would.

Mr. Griffin.

That entry is in pencil and there is a line with nothing written on it and then there is another entry under that. What is that?

Mr. Crafard.

It appears to be 3902 East Waco.

Mr. Griffin.

Who made that entry?

Mr. Crafard.

I have no idea.

Mr. Griffin.

I believe you testified before you didn't think that was your handwriting.

Mr. Crafard.

No. I would change that. I would say that was 0902 if you take a close look at it. You can see that, 0902 East Waco.

Mr. Griffin.

Or could it be E Street Waco?

Mr. Crafard.

It might be that, but I never made the entry, I would remember it if I saw it.

Mr. Griffin.

That concludes the front part of page 13. On the back of page 13 there are some entries. What do those seem to be?

Mr. Crafard.

I'd say the first one would be call Jack at the Carousel. The next one would be call Mr. Ruby at the Carousel. The next one would be Tex Lacy. It is prevedo I would say or something like that. That is all I can make out. Pre, and v-e-d-o.

Mr. Griffin.

Does that mean anything to you?

Mr. Crafard.

No. Were these entries "call Jack Carousel" and "Call Mr. Ruby at the Carousel," were these your entries?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes. I believe this would be my entry here, too. I am not positive.

Mr. Griffin.

And were those notes for yourself or----

Mr. Crafard.

I believe it was something I told somebody else or something. I don't even--I can't even figure why I would write it down. I don't know. That doesn't really look like my handwriting. I wouldn't have put "Call Mr. Ruby." I'd put "Call Jack." And this looks like "Mr." up at the top of the page. It is something I can't ever remember putting something like that on the top of a page without finishing it.

Mr. Griffin.

That concludes the back portion of page 13. Page 14 is about a third of a sheet written in pencil.

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.