Mr. Griffin.

How much time elapsed between the time you learned that Oswald had been shot and the time you learned that Ruby had been the Person who shot him?
Mr. SENATOR, I Would probably say within 5 to 10 minutes, something like that. It was a short while I know. It wasn't long.

Mr. Griffin.

I'm going to mark a document which I have before me in the following manner: "Washington, D.C., April 23, 1964, George Senator, Deposition Exhibit 5401," and I am going to sign my name to it.
This document which I have marked as a copy of an interview report prepared by Special Agent Kenneth C- Howe of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, of an interview on November 24, 1963, with you, Mr. Senator. It consists of five pages, typewritten pages, and they are numbered 296 to 300. I have marked on page 296, and I have not marked the succeeding pages. I want to hand you this and ask you now to take the time to read it over, and then I want to know if that is an accurate report of what you told the FBI at that time.
I am not asking you whether, on further reflection, you would change what you said in there, but merely whether that accurately reflects what you told them at that time. If it doesn't, why, will you point out the parts that are not accurate, and we will see if we can't correct it.

Mr. Senator.

Shall I make little notations here?

Mr. Griffin.

Are there some places you want to change?

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Before you mark on it--why don't you do this----

Mr. Senator.

It will only be a dot.

Mr. Griffin.

Why don't you just take this paper and make some notes on it and then we can go back.

Mr. Senator.

There is going to be some changes in here. I will point them out to you.

Mr. Griffin.

Have you got some changes to make there?

Mr. Senator.

Yes. I had better go over it with you though.

Mr. Griffin.

Why don't you read the sentence or sentences that you would make changes in, and then we will discuss them? What I suggest you do is read one sentence or a group of sentences that are wrong, and then we will discuss that sentence or group, and then we will move on to the next one. Go right ahead and read it.

Mr. Senator.

It says here, "He had only casual association with him, mostly only as a patron to his club, from that time on until approximately 3 years ago."

Mr. Griffin.

That is on page 296 of the FBI report?

Mr. Senator.

Yes. Now it wasn't 3 years ago at the time. This was 2 years ago.

Mr. Griffin.

In other words, your association with Jack was casual up until 2 years ago?

Mr. Senator.

That is right.

Mr. Griffin.

All right.

Mr. Senator.

In other words, it was 1962, February, March, or April or somewheres in there of 1962.

Mr. Griffin.

Why don't you change with your pen, strike out the word "three."

Mr. Senator.

On this?

Mr. Griffin.

On that. And write "two."

Mr. Senator.

You mean cross the three off and put a two in there?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes. And then initial it and date it.

Mr. Senator.

It is going to be hard to squeeze it in between these lines. Shall I put my initial after it?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mr. Senator.

You won't be able to see it. These writings here don't coincide.

Mr. Griffin.

Let me talk a little bit more about this change in your relationship with Jack. up until approximately March or April of 1962 when your relationship became more than casual, were there other people in Dallas to whom you felt closer than Jack?

Mr. Senator.

No; I think. maybe we are both misinterpreting this. When you say closer, this is when I first started to--you know, when I was down and