Mr. Crafard.

I remember something about the conversation. I am trying to remember. I can't remember too much of it.

Mr. Griffin.

Was that a conversation you had with somebody on the telephone?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe it was. I am not positive. I would not swear to it but I believe it was over the telephone that I was given these directions.

Mr. Griffin.

And you were to pass the directions on to somebody else?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

What part of Dallas would that be in, following those directions?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe it would be the southern portion of Dallas, I am not sure. It seems to me 5400 on Central would be the other end of Dallas, the southern end.

Mr. Griffin.

That concludes the back part of page 7. Now on page 8 there are some entries. Whose entries are those?

Mr. Crafard.

These are my entries.

Mr. Griffin.

All right, the first one has to do with somebody named Lenard Woods.

Mr. Crafard.

Lenard Woods, his social security number, his address, 3420 Medow, Apt. No. 235. These gentlemen on this page are all members of the band that played at the Vegas Club, and it would be Milton Thomas, his social security number, with the address 2220 Anderson, the phone number HA 1-1026; Clarence McInnis, social security number, the address 2607 Oakland, no phone number; James Dotson, the social security number, the address 1136 Fletcher, his phone number RI 7-7436; the name James T. Aycox, his social security number, 2715 Hebornia; I believe it is with a notation under that that he also was known as Bear; they called him the Bear. His phone number was HA 1-1026.

Mr. Griffin.

How did you happen to come to put all of those notations in there?

Mr. Crafard.

Jack's sister took sick. He had me get the names and the addresses of the boys. I had understood him to say he wanted it for tax purposes and I got the social security numbers too, so he could get in touch with them for one thing when he did want to get in touch with them and also for he said tax purposes.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you see these men at the Vegas Club and get the information there or did you call them?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe I got these from, it was either Jack's sister or Pauline. I am not sure.

Mr. Griffin.

That concludes the front side of page 8.

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

On the back of page 8 there are some entries. What are those entries?

Mr. Crafard.

The numbers, the phone number WH 3--9783. That doesn't mean anything to me whatsoever. The phone number TA 7-9088. I can't make out what is underneath it.

Mr. Griffin.

Is that your handwriting?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't know for sure. It could be.

Mr. Griffin.

And this telephone number doesn't mean anything to you?

Mr. Crafard.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

That concludes page 8. Let's look at page 9. There are some entries there. Are those in your handwriting?

Mr. Crafard.

No; I don't remember every making an entry of that sort. For one thing this phone number has been gone over two or three times. These numbers $3, $3.50, that has no meaning whatsoever to me. None of this has any meaning to me whatsoever. I don't recall ever making an entry of that sort.

Mr. Griffin.

Can you ever even decipher this 18 and then a 12 and then something is written. What is that?

Mr. Crafard.

It looks like M-M-L-E-S or it could be M-E-B-L-S. That is as close as I can come to it.

Mr. Griffin.

There is a telephone number RI 7-5610 also on that page.

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

And is that in your handwriting?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't believe so. It could be. It could be, I am not positive.