Mr. Hubert.

Of course you don't know whether Jack went to the apartment on Friday night before you got there?

Mr. Senator.

No; I don't.

Mr. Hubert.

So you went home and went to bed.

Mr. Senator.

I read the paper in bed, and that is when I saw the why's about the President. They had a list, "Why, Mr. President?"

Mr. Hubert.

A full-page ad?

Mr. Senator.

Yes; "Why, Mr. President," so and so, "Why are you here?"

Mr. Hubert.

The one signed by Bernard Weissman? W-e-i-s-s-m-a-n.

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

You saw that before you saw Jack?

Mr. Senator.

Yes. As a matter of fact, I read the paper in bed.

Mr. Hubert.

You went to sleep, I take it?

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

What happened next?

Mr. Senator.

The next thing I know somebody was hollering at me and shaking me up. This was around 3 o'clock in the morning.

Mr. Hubert.

That was who?
Mr. SENAT0R. Jack Ruby.

Mr. Hubert.

Now describe him to us at that time. What was his condition?

Mr. Senator.

He was excited. He was moody; and the first thing come out of his mouth is the incident. Of course, the incident what happened to President Kennedy, and he said, "Gee, his poor children and Mrs. Kennedy, what a terrible thing to happen."

Mr. Hubert.

Had he been drinking?

Mr. Senator.

Jack don't drink.

Mr. Hubert.

He wasn't drinking on this occasion?

Mr. Senator.

No; he don't drink, no.

Mr. Hubert.

And his remarks were concerning the children?

Mr. Senator.

The children and Mrs. Kennedy and how sorry he felt for them.

Mr. Hubert.

What other comments did he make?

Mr. Senator.

Then he brought up the situation where he saw this poster of Justice of the Peace Earl Warren impeach him, Earl Warren.

Mr. Hubert.

He said he had seen that poster?

Mr. Senator.

Yes; he had saw that poster.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he say when he had noticed it?

Mr. Senator.

No; I think he noticed it that day or sometime that day, I assume. I am not sure but I think it was that day, and I assume that when something goes into his brain he wants to follow it up and find out why, why that poster was up there.

Mr. Griffin.

Had you had some experience like that before?

Mr. Senator.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

But I mean you said some experiences where he got something in his mind and he wanted to find out why, and he followed it up.
Mr. SENAT0R. I don't know. I can't relate any, but I assume these things could happen.

Mr. Griffin.

But you had never had any experience of that sort?

Mr. Senator.

No; I haven't had any experience.

Mr. Griffin.

So, this was a new experience for you.

Mr. Senator.

Yes; and he made me get dressed.

Mr. Hubert.

What did he tell you when he made you get dressed?

Mr. Senator.

He was telling me about this sign here.

Mr. Hubert.

Why did he want you to get dressed?

Mr. Senator.

He wanted me to go down to see the sign, and meanwhile he had called. He had a kid sleeping in the club who helps around, and he has got a Polaroid camera. So he calls the kid up, wakes him up.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you hear that call?

Mr. Senator.

What?

Mr. Hubert.

Did you hear that call?

Mr. Senator.

Yeah, he calls him up and says, "Larry, get up, get dressed," something of that nature, "and get that Polaroid with the flashbulbs and meet me downstairs. I'll be right downtown."