Mr. Senator.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he seem to show any interest in international affairs as they were developing?

Mr. Senator.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

I mean would he be the type of person that would read the newspapers at all? Did he read newspapers at all?

Mr. Senator.

Oh, sure; he read newspapers religiously every day.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he read all of them, I mean every part of it?

Mr. Senator.

I will tell you, when you ask me that, I tell you where his reading is. On the toilet bowl. That is where all his reading is---is on the toilet bowl. It may sound funny, but it is true.

Mr. Hubert.

Can you give us any idea from what you know, of what his reaction to international events was, such as, for instance, the Cuban crisis in 1962?

Mr. Senator.

He never discussed these.

Mr. Hubert.

You are familiar with what I am talking about? I think it was in the fall of 1962 when we discovered that Cuba had some possible atomic weapons over there, a subject of national interest.

Mr. Senator.

Yes; I have read that.

Mr. Hubert.

And the Berlin crisis of the year before?

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

That is the sort of thing I mean. Did he comment about that?

Mr. Senator.

No; he didn't.

Mr. Hubert.

Is it your thought that he just had no interest in that sort of thing at all?

Mr. Senator.

Well, if he did or not, he never discussed it too much. He would read a paper. He would read his ad. He reads these----of course, I am certain he reads all parts of the paper, but especially the entertainment part, he was very anxious in reading.

Mr. Hubert.

Normally when two people share space such as you do, and are in each other's company and have any conversation at all, the conversation normally relates to the topics of the day, as it were, as reflected by newspapers and other news media.
I wonder if you can throw any light on what his attitude was or his interest was towards topics of the day of international import.

Mr. Senator.

I just don't recall. All I know is that he reads the----of course, I am certain he reads all of the paper, you know, or various parts, but he would talk about show business a lot with me, see.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you ever hear him discuss at all any international incident?

Mr. Senator.

I just can't think offhand. I don't say he did or didn't. I just can't think offhand if he did or didn't.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you ever seek to engage him in small talk, shall we say, about subjects of that nature?

Mr. Senator.

Well, he talked about the President. I remember once we were watching a picture of President Kennedy's kid going between the desk. He thought that was so wonderful, you know, enjoyed over that. I remember that distinctly.

Mr. Hubert.

You mean he saw that on TV?

Mr. Senator.

Yes; this he marveled over. But the discussion, we never went into papers too much. He was mainly, I know when he grabbed the paper the first thing he would go to is the show part of it, his competitors, the show part of it, the night life, Tony Zoppi, with a nightclub. He is like, I don't know how to compare him, to somebody who writes a column in New York.

Mr. Hubert.

You don't recall in all of the years you have known Jack of his being interested ,in international affairs to the point that you can remember any discussion with him?

Mr. Senator.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

At all?

Mr. Senator.

I really can't think offhand. I don't say that he probably hadn't, but I just don't think offhand.

Mr. Hubert.

You don't remember any such discussions?

Mr. Senator.

I don't; no.