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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XIV - Page 2« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Curtis Laverne Crafard Resumed)

Mr. Crafard.
Yes; this is a notebook I used to keep phone numbers when I was working for Mr. Jack Ruby.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you buy that notebook yourself?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes; I bought this myself.
Mr. Griffin.
And how soon after you went to work for Jack Ruby did you buy that?
Mr. Crafard.
About a week after I went to work for him. You look real close on the front you will see my name on the front of it.
Mr. Griffin.
And did you write that in there?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes.
Mr. Griffin.
Can you read what you see on there?
Mr. Crafard.
C. L.--Larry Crafard, Carousel Club. Its got 1312 1/2 Commerce Street, Dallas, Tex. It's real vague on there.
Mr. Griffin.
That is an impression that simply comes through as actually scratches on there and doesn't come through in any color?
Mr. Crafard.
No; it doesn't come through in any color.
Mr. Griffin.
Now, when you bought this book, did Jack Ruby give you any instructions with respect to maintaining the book?
Mr. Crafard.
Just use it to put phone numbers down in, addresses of people that called in wanting to talk, called in, put the phone number down so I'd know how he could get in touch with them.
Mr. Griffin.
Did the notations that appear in there follow any sequence either chronological or by topic or anything of that sort?
Mr. Crafard.
I don't believe they do, no.
Mr. Griffin.
Would you want to take the time to look at it and see if you recognize any sequence in the entries?
Mr. Crafard.
The first portion of the book on the first page is more or less numbers which was used quite frequently.
Mr. Griffin.
You are referring to page 1?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes; page 1.
Mr. Griffin.
Now, do you want to look over on the back of page 1; the reverse side?
Mr. Crafard.
It is also numbers that were used quite frequently.
Mr. Griffin.
Now, look at page 2.
Mr. Crafard.
Page 2, I believe, was an address on the top of page 2. It was an address that I wrote down for Mr. Ruby.
Mr. Griffin.
What about the remaining entries on there. Were they numbers that were used frequently?
Mr. Crafard.
No; I don't believe so.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you want to look at the reverse side of page 2?
Mr. Crafard.
There is only one number on there, on the reverse side of page 2 that we used very frequently. That was Little Lynn's phone number.
Mr. Griffin.
The front part of page 3?
Mr. Crafard.
From the numbers on there, as far as I know, there was only one of them that was used very frequently. It was Mickey Ryan. On the reverse side is just more or less notations that were taken down from phone calls. Then on page 4 is just numbers that were taken down from phone calls. The first number on page 4, Norma Bennett, that was that one girl I was trying to tell you about yesterday.
Mr. Griffin.
She was the waitress?
Mr. Crafard.
No; she was the one I started saying about that Jack had tried to get to work as a stripper to get her to work for this friend of his, Ralph Paul.
Mr. Hubert.
What you mean is that during your testimony yesterday you remembered her name as Norma but you did not remember her last name?
Mr. Crafard.
I did not even remember her first name, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
I thought you mentioned that her name was Norma.
Mr. Crafard.
Not that I recall, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
In any case, you now say that the person you were testifying about yesterday who tried to get work and who was ultimately placed at work by Ruby with Ralph Paul was Norma Bennett?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes, sir.
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