Mr. Hubert.

She brought in some money, as I understand?

Mr. Paul.

Yes; and no. At first she was doing all right, and then she fell off to nothing.

Mr. Hubert.

She quit, I think, before her contract was over?

Mr. Paul.

Actually, it was a verbal contract--the last. You see, they had a contract to start with and then it became a verbal contract--she works as long as she wants to--as long as he wants to keep her.

Mr. Hubert.

In other words, the first contract was a written contract but of limited time, and when it ran out it was on a weekly basis?

Mr. Paul.

On a weekly basis.

Mr. Hubert.

During last fall, say from the time Jack came back from New York until November, do you think you saw him two or three times a week then? Or spoke to him?

Mr. Paul.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you think you are in a position to say whether or not he left town during any of those times during the period after he came back from New York--say, September, October, and November?

Mr. Paul.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, I don't quite understand your answer--are you in a position to say?

Mr. Paul.

He didn't leave town.

Mr. Hubert.

In your opinion?

Mr. Paul.

The only place I know he went is New Orleans and New York, last year.

Mr. Hubert.

And in your opinion if he had gone anyplace else, you would have known it?

Mr. Paul.

I would have known it. In fact, I was the only one that knew he went to New York, but when he went to New Orleans everybody knew because that was another thing--that was no secret.

Mr. Hubert.

And you are basing your opinion on the knowledge of his movements by the fact that you were in contact with him both in person and by telephone several times a week all through this period?

Mr. Paul.

Almost every day.

Mr. Hubert.

You would telephone one another?

Mr. Paul.

What?

Mr. Hubert.

You would telephone one another or see one another?

Mr. Paul.

Yes--telephone mostly. In the last year, I think I used to go to the club twice a week,. Tuesday and Friday, because all the other nights I was working.

Mr. Hubert.

In other words, those were your nights off?

Mr. Paul.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And you went almost 100 percent of the time that you had nights off, Tuesday and Friday, you went to the Carousel and you would stay there all evening?

Mr. Paul.

Well, I wouldn't come until late anyway.

Mr. Hubert.

You would come late and stay until it closed?

Mr. Paul.

And then go for coffee or something to eat.

Mr. Hubert.

And in other than those days you would get in touch by telephone?

Mr. Paul.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

What was the purpose just friendship?

Mr. Paul.

That's all--and, he had trouble with the Weinsteins and he always asked for advice. That's why he used to call me all the time.

Mr. Hubert.

The telephone records, as you know, show quite a number of calls between you.

Mr. Paul.

They don't?

Mr. Hubert.

They do, and I was wondering Just what those calls were about.

Mr. Paul.

Well, every day he would find something else he would like to do--he would think of doing, or the union didn't do right by him, the AGVA, or the girls didn't do right--that's why he called me almost every day.

Mr. Hubert.

You mean he would call you if he had trouble with the girls?