Mr. Hubert.

Is there any further story to that note, or is that money still owing?
Mr, PAUL. That money is still owing.

Mr. Hubert.

That has never been paid?

Mr. Paul.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

And you have no note for it?

Mr. Paul.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, after May 1958, what did you do?

Mr. Paul.

I bought into the Bull Pen.

Mr. Hubert.

And that was with Semos?

Mr. Paul.

No, no; that was with Bowman.

Mr. Hubert.

With Bowman?

Mr. Paul.

Bowman had a partner, and he got a notice from the building department--what is it, VA or something like that--they wanted him--as an examiner, so he sold out to me.

Mr. Hubert.

In other words, originally you and Bowman were in as a partnership alone, or was it a corporation when it stared?

Mr. Paul.

No, no; when I bought this man out it was a stepfather then--when I bought him. out--Bowman and I were partners--50-50 partners. Then we made it a corporation.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you remember the year of the incorporation?

Mr. Paul.

I think it was 1960.

Mr. Hubert.

1960, but you had operated prior to that as a 5050 partnership with Bowman?

Mr. Paul.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Then, you became a corporation and when did you buy out Bowman completely so that you are now full owner?

Mr. Paul.

January 1, 1963.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, after you left this association with Ruby in May of 1958, did you have any further business or social relationship with him?

Mr. Paul.

Yes; we were friends.

Mr. Hubert.

You had been friends actually for that time almost 10 years, hadn't you?

Mr. Paul.

Yes; we were friends from the time he loaned the money from me, let's put it that way. We had to be friends.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you see him quite often?

Mr. Paul.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

How did that come about?

Mr. Paul.

Well, the nights I had off, you see, we used to work I day and. 1 night with my partners. If I worked nights, the next day he worked nights, so we swung it around, so the nights I had off, either I would go to the Vegas Club--at that time he had the Vegas Club alone, and after that we would go out to eat.

Mr. Hubert.

Was his sister, Eva Grant, with the Vegas at that time? At the very beginning?

Mr. Paul.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

When did she come in, do you know?

Mr. Paul.

When he opened up--not the Carousel, but the first one which one was that?

Mr. Hubert.

The Sovereign Club?

Mr. Paul.

The Sovereign Club.

Mr. Hubert.

What year was that--about?

Mr. Paul.

1959 or 1960--1 think it was 1959.

Mr. Hubert.

Had you known her before?

Mr. Paul.

. Just a casual acquaintance, you know, I mean--I must have seen her once or twice.

Mr. Hubert.

She didn't live in Dallas?

Mr. Paul.

No; I think she was out on the road some place selling merchandise.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you have any further business relations with Sam Ruby?

Mr. Paul.

No; just that ice cream place.

Mr. Hubert.

That's all you ever had with him?

Mr. Paul.

Yes.