(Testimony of Robert Carl Patterson)
Mr. Patterson.
Yes.
Mr. Griffin.
Where are you attending college?
Mr. Patterson.
Arlington State.
Mr. Griffin.
Is that in the Dallas area?
Mr. Patterson.
It is in Arlington, Tex.
Mr. Griffin.
What are you majoring in?
Mr. Patterson.
Music.
Mr. Griffin.
You were interviewed sometime in December by an agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Do you recall that interview?
Mr. Patterson.
Yes.
Mr. Griffin.
At that time you indicated that you had worked on some occasions for Eva Grant, Ruby's sister?
Mr. Patterson.
Yes.
Mr. Griffin.
When did you first work for Eva Grant?
Mr. Patterson.
I don't know the exact date. In fact, I can't even recall the month, but it was, I guess you could say, the last of the summer.
Mr. Griffin.
This summer, 1963, was .the first time?
Mr. Patterson.
1963; yes.
Mr. Griffin.
So the first time you worked for EVa Grant would have been in the summer of 1963?
Mr. Patterson.
Approximately. As far as I can recall.
Mr. Griffin.
How much would you receive for a one night engagement with Mrs. Grant?
Mr. Patterson.
Well, the pay varied from--I just played a one hour show, say, about 10 or 15 minutes with a saxophone player. That is myself and my band, and I would say the average pay I received was $8 for these 10 or 15 minutes.
Mr. Griffin.
Would you sometimes receive more and sometimes receive less?
Mr. Patterson.
Yes.
Mr. Griffin.
What was the least you received?
Mr. Patterson.
$4.00.
Mr. Griffin.
What was the most that you received?
Mr. Patterson.
$10.00.
Mr. Griffin.
How many times did you play there?
Mr. Patterson.
I don't know for sure.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you always appear with your saxophone player?
Mr. Patterson.
Eighty percent of the time I did.
Mr. Griffin.
Did they pay the saxophone player separately?
Mr. Patterson.
Yes.
Mr. Griffin.
Did they sometimes pay you?
Mr. Patterson.
Yes.
Mr. Griffin.
Then you would pay the saxophone player?
Mr. Patterson.
Yes.
Mr. Griffin.
You are nodding yes?
Mr. Patterson.
Yes.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you ever consult with Jack Ruby or with Eva Grant about playing at Jack's Carousel Club?
Mr. Patterson.
No. It was my understanding that he had different type music there than what I played.
Mr. Griffin.
How were you known to the Rubys; by what name?
Mr. Patterson.
Mrs. Grant called me Bobby Patterson.
Mr. Griffin.
Have you ever had occasion to talk with Jack Ruby?
Mr. Patterson.
Yes, I talked with him several times about playing. He wanted me to start playing in the Vegas, and we talked about salary and hours and so forth.
Mr. Griffin.
Mr. Patterson, I am going to hand you what I have marked Exhibit 5357, which is a photograph of a page out of that notebook, and I have marked this photograph, Dallas, Tex., April 14, 1964, Exhibit 5357, Robert C. Patterson, and I signed my name to it. Previously this same photograph has been marked as Crafard Exhibit No. 5225, and as Armstrong Exhibit No. 5305-E.
I want to hand you this and ask you to look at the notations on that notebook.
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