Mrs. Nichols.

Well, he only mentioned that to me for a short period of time. I would say 3 or 4 months that he mentioned to me that he would go up there.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you know a man by the name of Johnny Ross?

Mrs. Nichols.

Yes; I have seen him in the Vegas Club a few times.

Mr. Griffin.

I believe you described him as a gambler?

Mrs. Nichols.

Jack told me that he was a gambler.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you know if Jack ever gambled with him?

Mrs. Nichols.

Jack never did mention.

Mr. Griffin.

What kind of gambling did Johnny Ross do?

Mrs. Nichols.

I don't know.

Mr. Griffin.

Did Jack have any business association with Johnny Ross?

Mrs. Nichols.

Not that I know of.

Mr. Griffin.

Now Jack called you on the day the President was killed?

Mrs. Nichols.

That's right.

Mr. Griffin.

How long had it been before then that you had last seen Jack?

Mrs. Nichols.

I had seen him on the street one time in the spring of 1963 I didn't talk to him. He was driving the car and I was walking.

Mr. Griffin.

Before the time that you saw him?

Mrs. Nichols.

And before that, it had been over a year.

Mr. Griffin.

Had you talked to him on the telephone?

Mrs. Nichols.

No; he had not called me in over a year.

Mr. Griffin.

Now you told Mr. Sayres on the 18th of January that you remembered that Jack had called you at about 2 o'clock on the 22d. How did you happen to remember that at that time?

Mrs. Nichols.

He called me sometime between 1 and 2, while I was out for lunch and left his number for me to call him. And I called him back as soon after 2, about 10 minutes after 2.

Mr. Griffin.

How did you happen to know that Jack had called?

Mrs. Nichols.

Well, I go to lunch from I to 2 all the time.

Mr. Griffin.

But the first time that you talked with Mr. Sayres, you didn't remember apparently that Jack had called you?

Mrs. NICHOLS. Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Or did you remember at that time?

Mrs. Nichols.

Well, he didn't ask me about it and I didn't think about the importance of it until this investigation or for the defense attorney asked me about that, if Jack had called me on that day, and I remembered.

Mr. Griffin.

Did this investigator or one of Jack's lawyers suggest that you ought to call the FBI and let them know about this?

Mrs. Nichols.

No. I got to thinking about it myself and I thought I wanted to keep the record straight. I wanted to let the FBI know it, too.

Mr. Griffin.

Did the investigator indicate to you that you might testify for Jack at the trial?

Mrs. Nichols.

Well, no; he didn't say. He didn't tell me whether he thought they would use me.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you have some idea that you might?

Mrs. Nichols.

Well, after I talked, after the investigator, contacted me, I was afraid that I might be called.

Mr. Griffin.

Were you ever called?

Mrs. Nichols.

I didn't attach the importance to the telephone call at the time.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you testify at the trial?

Mrs. Nichols.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Were you willing to testify?

Mrs. Nichols.

I didn't want to.

Mr. Griffin.

What was your reaction when you got this telephone call from Jack shortly after the President had been shot?

Mrs. Nichols.

Well, I was just, I was surprised when he after the President had been shot?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes; that Jack had called you?

Mrs. Nichols.

Yes; I was surprised. We hadn't been seeing each other and I didn't expect to ever hear from him again, and I was--he seemed to be upset about the President's assassination. I think everyone else was.

Mr. Griffin.

Why do you think Jack called you?