Mr. Hardin.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

And 13 means is cleared, in the sense is that you were dismissed about an hour later?

Mr. Hardin.

It all was a little while before that. I don't believe we cleared at the hospital. I think I came on back to the funeral home from the hospital without clearing, because if I am not mistaken, I believe those phones were all tied up at the hospital and I couldn't get to one of them.

Mr. Hubert.

Anyhow, from the time you got the call over the radio until the the time you got to the hospital, was exactly 10 minutes?

Mr. Hardin.

Let's see. Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And you got to the jail 3 minutes after you got the call, approximately, right?

Mr. Hardin.

Yes, sir. Well, from the time we got the call until we got to the jail, and--let's see, in 2 minutes, because we actually received the call at 11:21 and the call from the dispatcher to us at 11:22.

Mr. Hubert.

In other words, cede 5, on Exhibit 5126, cede 5 indicating that 11:22 is the time they put it on the air to you?

Mr. Hardin.

Is the time it was given to us.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, I'll ask you to look at Exhibit 5125, and tell me if you recognize the handwriting on the bottom part of that exhibit by the printed word "oxygen and remarks."

Mr. Hardin.

No, sir; that handwriting, I don't recognize.

Mr. Hubert.

All right. Now, is there anything further you want to add to this?

Mr. Hardin.

No, Sir.

Mr. Hubert.

About all you know about it?

Mr. Hardin.

Yes, sir; that's it.

Mr. Hubert.

Have you been interviewed by any member of the Commission other than myself prior to the taking of this deposition?

Mr. Hardin.

No, sir; I haven't.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, during the interview that you had with me immediately prior to the taking of this deposition, was anything brought out material nature which has not been covered in this deposition?

Mr. Hardin.

No, sir; not that I know of, not that I can remember.

Mr. Hubert.

All right. Do you know of any inconsistencies between what you testified here in this deposition and the matter as to which we look about during the interview which proceeded the deposition?

Mr. Hardin.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

All right, thank you very much.

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C. E. Hulse

Testimony of C. E. Hulse

The testimony of C. E. Hulse was taken at 4:30 p.m., on April 1, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Leon D. Hubert, Jr., assistant counsel of the President's Commission.

Mr. Hubert.

This is the deposition of Officer C. E. Hulse. Mr. Hulse, my name is Leon Hubert, and I am a member of the advisory staff of the General Counsel of the President's Commission. Under the provisions of the Executive Order 11130, dated November 29, 1963, the Joint Resolution of Congress No. 137, and the rules of procedure adopted by the Commission in conformance with this joint resolution and the Executive order, I have been authorized to take the sworn deposition of you. I state to you that the general nature of the Commission's inquiry is to ascertain, evaluate, and report upon the facts relating to the assassination of President Kennedy and the subsequent violent death of Lee Harvey Oswald.
In particular to you, Mr. Hulse, the nature of the inquiry today is to determine the facts that you know about the death of Oswald and any other pertinent