Mr. Hubert.

You also knew what the signal 19 was, and what the other signal you mentioned----

Mr. Hardin.

Code 3.

Mr. Hubert.

You knew what that was?

Mr. Hardin.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

And I think you have explained all these meanings of signals in the record already?

Mr. Hardin.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

What did you do then?

Mr. Hardin.

We, as I say, we were on the Freeway about a quarter of a mile I guess you would call it southwest--of Industrial and we went on the freeway, from there to Ervay Street, north on Ervay to Main, and then east on Main Street to city hall.

Mr. Hubert.

And you came into the city hall, in your ambulance?

Mr. Hardin.

Came off the Main Street entrance to the city hall.

Mr. Hubert.

Describe for the record what you saw and what you did?

Mr. Hardin.

Now remembering coming into the basement, there were police officers standing there guarding the basement to see nobody got out, and let us go into the basement, and when--and boy, the basement was pretty crowded, a bunch of photographers and newsmen down there, and they were moving this van up the Commerce Street side so we could get in--I mean going up the ramp toward Commerce Street side, best I remember, now, and pulled the ambulance up just south of the well, I don't- -jail office I guess it would be in there, and stopped the ambulance, and when we got out I started around the back of the ambulance to take the stretcher out, and there was a police officer, I don't remember who he was or anything, but he must have not recognized me, kind of pushed me back into the crowd. I guess he thought I was someone just coming through, so, Just a few seconds until he did recognize me and let me on through----

Mr. Hubert.

By the way, was there anyone with you then?

Mr. Hardin.

Yes, sir; my rider attendant, was with me.

Mr. Hubert.

Who was that?

Mr. Hardin.

Harold Wayne Wolfe.

Mr. Hubert.

Go ahead.

Mr. Hardin.

And I went around to the back of the ambulance, and my rider opened the back door and took the stretcher out, and went into the police or jail office, and we saw Oswald lying on the floor there, and several men around him, and we picked him up and put him on the stretcher and put him in the ambulance, and then there were two or three men, I don't remember

now, got into the back of the ambulance, I believe.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know who they were?

Mr. Hardin.

I believe they were police officers and I believe one of them was Leavelle.

Mr. Hubert.

Yes.

Mr. Hardin.

I am not sure. And then there was a doctor riding in the seat in the back, there, and then my assistant was in the front seat.

Mr. Hubert.

How did you know the man was a doctor?

Mr. Hardin.

I have seen him at Parkland Hospital several times and city hall, too, and recognized him as being a doctor.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know his name?

Mr. Hardin.

Sir?

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know his name?

Mr. Hardin.

No, sir; I don't know his name. He was in here just before us.

Mr. Hubert.

Let the record show that Dr. Fred Bieberdorf was in the hall with the witness, Mr. Hardin, and appeared in this room where this deposition is being taken just before Mr. Hardin came in. All right.

Mr. Hardin.

And we got him in the car, or ambulance, they drove the armored truck on out of the basement on the Commerce Street side, and we went out behind the truck. Of course, the truck was there when we left, and then went east on Commerce to the expressway, and north on the expressway to Elm and then west on Elm to Harwood and north on Harwood to Harry Hines, and north on Hines to Parkland.