Mr. Griffin.

present, was at least one of the other three of you, Archer, Clardy, and you, present with Ruby?

Mr. Mcmillon.

Yes, I believe so, probably most of the time and probably it would have been Archer more, because I was running about the jail taking care of some of the details. I was away for short periods of time, so I didn't hear all of the conversation.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, when you--by the time Dean and Sorrels left, what information did you have as to how Ruby had gotten into the basement?

Mr. Mcmillon.

They had already come out by then and had just walked right straight down the ramp.

Mr. Griffin.

How did that come to your attention?

Mr. Mcmillon.

Let me see. Let me see those notes there. I believe I have it in them. Refresh my----

Mr. Griffin.

That is a statement that you made on December 4?

Mr. Mcmillon.

That is the second.

Mr. Griffin.

Why don't you look at your statement of the 24th?

Mr. Mcmillon.

We are still missing that fourth report. I believe it was covered in there.

Mr. Griffin.

Well, now, that is a later report, but on the date of the 24th, when these things were fresh in your mind at 3:30, you didn't mention anything in your report, did you, about how Ruby got down the ramp?

Mr. Mcmillon.

Just a second. No, sir; I didn't mention it then.

Mr. Griffin.

Why was that?

Mr. Mcmillon.

Well, I couldn't possibly have mentioned everything that I knew about the deal here. I just didn't mention it.

Mr. Griffin.

But you knew that was important, didn't you?

Mr. Mcmillon.

No, sir; I didn't think anything about it being important at all at the time. I gave that information, I believe this report was written on Sunday--I gave it to them on Saturday, I believe, during the departmental investigation.

Mr. Griffin.

In the meantime, had you talked with Dean?

Mr. Mcmillon.

With Dean?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mr. Mcmillon.

I don't recall if I had or not. I don't remember whether I had seen him or not.

Mr. Griffin.

In the meantime, had you talked with Archer or Clardy?

Mr. Mcmillon.

Oh, yes; sure had.

Mr. Griffin.

There came a time, didn't there, when Dean was under a lot of pressure from the people in the police department?

Mr. Mcmillon.

I don't know anything about that. Probably no more than the rest of us. I don't know. I think that Dean got misquoted or something in the paper.

Mr. Griffin.

And the department conducted--directed particular attention to that in part of their investigation, didn't they?

Mr. Mcmillon.

I don' know that that was what the investigation was over or not.

Mr. Griffin.

Didn't you know somewhere along the line that Dean might possibly be in trouble?

Mr. Mcmillon.

No, sir; this article in the paper, I had heard all different kinds of rumors. I had heard that the officer, who was supposed to be the one that saw him milling around outside, was an ex-police officer, the article in the paper.

Mr. Griffin.

There was an article in the paper that particularly quoted Dean?

Mr. Mcmillon.

I haven't seen the article. I understand that there was.

Mr. Griffin.

That is right. Now, were you present when Agent Hall questioned Ruby?

Mr. Mcmillon.

Part of the time.

Mr. Griffin.

Were you there when Agent Hall questioned Ruby about how he got down the Main Street ramp?

Mr. Mcmillon.

I may or may not have been. I don't know. It seemed to me like most of his conversation I recall Hall asking him there, I am sure I already