Mr. Griffin.

What did Jack have to say about the Birch Society?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe it was either Jack or Senator said something about this sign, the "Impeach Earl Warren" sign being--having something to do with the "Birchites," or something like that.

Mr. Griffin.

What were they going to do with this?

Mr. Crafard.

I have no idea.

Mr. Griffin.

Did Jack say anything to you about what he had been doing the rest of the day?

Mr. Crafard.

No; that was early in the morning when we took the pictures.

Mr. Griffin.

And you hadn't seen him for probably 12 hours?

Mr. Crafard.

Something like that.

Mr. Griffin.

Before that, and in the 12 hours that he had been gone, did he indicate or he or Senator indicate at all what had gone on?

Mr. Crafard.

Something had been said about Jack not having gotten any sleep.

Mr. Griffin.

Did Jack indicate that he was doing this for anybody else, taking these pictures?

Mr. Crafard.

No; he didn't give any indication about that fact.

Mr. Griffin.

Did Senator indicate what he had been doing that day?

Mr. Crafard.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

What was your attitude after you went out there on this picture-taking enterprise?

Mr. Crafard.

Well, it was just something he wanted done. It meant no more to me than taking a picture at the club, actually, except I was kind of curious as to what the devil it was all about.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you ask him?

Mr. Crafard.

Something, they were talking about the "Impeach Earl Warren" sign. I made some suggestion about a box number, "Write for free information"; I made some suggestion about maybe writing for free information and finding out what I had come back, as I can recall.

Mr. Griffin.

What happened?

Mr. Crafard.

Nothing more was said about that.

Mr. Griffin.

Was the box number written down or anything?

Mr. Crafard.

The box number was on the photograph, that is all.

Mr. Griffin.

Was there a name on this, in addition to the box number, was there a name to anybody that you should write to?

Mr. Crafard.

I think it was just "Impeach Earl Warren Committee" or something like that. I am not sure.

Mr. Griffin.

You don't remember?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't remember.

Mr. Griffin.

Go ahead. You were going to say something else.

Mr. Crafard.

I was going to say either that or it was an organization in Massachusetts somewhere or something that you had to write to. I know the sign had been printed in, I believe, Massachusetts.

Mr. Griffin.

What conversation did you have about this sign after you drove back?

Mr. Crafard.

After going back in, we had coffee, and they said something about going down to the post office and checking this box number to see if they could find out who had the box or something, and they let me off at the Carousel. That was the last I saw of them.

Mr. Griffin.

You mentioned in connection with that telephone call that you had had, the 3-hour telephone conversation with that girl----

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

You thought there were some people in the background.

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

And you indicated you thought they might have been teenagers or something.

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Was there something particular about the voices and so forth that made you think it was teenagers?

Mr. Crafard.

Well, some of the giggles I heard were kind of silly, like some silly giggle that some of the young teenage girls would do or make.