Mr. Griffin.

Was the safe still there?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Where was Andy; was he still there?

Mr. Crafard.

No; Andy was working some place else; I have no idea where.

Mr. Hubert.

When you left, did you return the key to her?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you see Ralph Paul or George Senator while you were there?

Mr. Crafard.

I saw George Senator at the courthouse, that was all.

Mr. Hubert.

You didn't see Ralph Paul or talk to him?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't remember seeing him. I know I never talked to him, and I don't remember seeing him.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you talk to any of the strippers or the waitresses who used to be there?

Mr. Crafard.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Think hard now. Was there anybody else that you talked to in Dallas outside of the people you saw in connection with the Ruby trial?

Mr. Crafard.

These people that I saw around the mission there I talked to is all, and the. police department. I asked them to put a tracer on my wife.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you see Mr. Case?

Mr. Crafard.

Case?

Mr. Griffin.

Bob Case.

Mr. Crafard.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

You just arrived in Dallas from Oregon, I think when you were served with these papers to come here?

Mr. Crafard.

No; I had been home for a little while.

Mr. Hubert.

How long?

Mr. Crafard.

I had arrived there, I had been there, let's see, I got in Monday--it would have been 2 weeks this last Monday that I had been home. I spent my time looking for a job since I have been home.

Mr. Hubert.

You haven't found any yet?

Mr. Crafard.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Have you ever been in trouble in your life in the sense of being charged with any offense?

Mr. Crafard.

No; sir, I have got two times that I have been picked up, picked up on a rag charge.

Mr. Hubert.

What?

Mr. Crafard.

Vagrancy charge; Findlay, Ohio, and drunk in a public street in Dallas, Oreg. That is the only two times I have ever been charged.

Mr. Hubert.

Were you actually prosecuted on those two cases?

Mr. Crafard.

I paid a fine on the drunk on public street, and the other one I was just--I spent 72 hours in the jail and was let go.

Mr. Hubert.

The police have not reported to you on the tracer on your wife?

Mr. Crafard.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

When was your wife last known to you to be in Dallas, Tex.?

Mr. Crafard.

I didn't know she was in Dallas. I had an idea she was around the Dallas area somewhere.

Mr. Griffin.

When you left Dallas on November 23, did you have an idea that your wife was around the area at that time?

Mr. Crafard.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

How did you come to believe that she was around the area?

Mr. Crafard.

Well, I had wrote to my folks asking them for information, if she had been in touch with them, if they knew where she was, and I had a cousin who had been back out west and visited my folks and they told me, they was telling me, they had gotten a letter from this woman in Cuba, Mo., where my wife had been, so when I left Michigan, I went to Cuba, Mo., and I talked to the woman there and, as far as she knew, my wife had went back to the Dallas area, the last she knew of her.

Mr. Griffin.

How long had that been?

Mr. Crafard.

It had been, this was Christmastime.

Mr. Griffin.

That is when the woman in Cuba, Mo., had seen her?

Mr. Crafard.

That was the last time.