Mrs. Cheek.

2 o'clock in the evening.

Mr. Griffin.

In the afternoon?

Mrs. Cheek.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

This was at the Carousel?

Mrs. Cheek.

Yes; in his office.

Mr. Griffin.

When Jack called you, what did he say to you?

Mrs. Cheek.

Said he had a business deal that he wanted to talk over me. I said, "What kind is it?"
And he said, "A club." And asked me to come down to talk to him about it and I did.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he indicate at the time he called you how much money he wanted you to invest?

Mrs. Cheek.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Now when you got down there to talk to him, what did he say and what did you say? Try to recall as best you can how this conversation was.

Mrs. Cheek.

He said he had a location for a club and he wanted me to put in $6,000 and he'd put $1,000 and he would use his talent and ability to operate a club, and he knew really how to run one and operate one.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he indicate what sort of return he expected?

Mrs. Cheek.

Fifty-fifty.

Mr. Griffin.

Each would have a half interest in the club?

Mrs. Cheek.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he indicate how much of a return you would make foryour $6,000?

Mrs. Cheek.

No; he didn't. He couldn't even tell me the location of the place, because I asked him that, kept questioning him about where is thelocation, and he didn't want to tell me that. And I asked him why, and he said, "Well, he just couldn't tell me right then." And I said, "Is it because you think I might go around and sell this place or try to buy it myself?" And He said, "How would' you do about anything like that?" And I said, "Well, you tie it up. Put some money up on it."

Mr. Griffin.

Did it sound like Jack was interested in buying a piece of real estate, or was he going to get a lease and operate in a leased building, or what?

Mrs. Cheek.

He didn't go into that. He just kept talking about how he could operate a club, how much money could be made, you know, and he introduced me to this other fellow and talked about what a good interior decorator he was and how he would decorate the club.

Mr. Griffin.

What did the interior decorator say?

Mrs. Cheek.

Then the man was telling me what a good operator he was.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he tell you anything about his experience in other places he decorated?

Mrs. Cheek.

Yes; one or two places; but I really didn't pay any attention to what locations. I was just listening to Mr. Ruby on what his deal was on the investment I was supposed to make, and whether or not I would like it or not, and I told him I could manage a business, too. And I said, "I don't think that I would want to go in with anyone and put $6,000 and you put $1,000. You would have to come fifty-fifty."

Mr. Griffin.

What did Jack indicate was his response?

Mrs. Cheek.

He said he couldn't do it.

Mr. Griffin.

Could you tell from his response whether he meant that he didn't want to do it or that he couldn't afford to do it, or what he meant by that?

Mrs. Cheek.

Well, he did say he didn't have the money.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he say he didn't have the money?

Mrs. Cheek.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Now had you inquired about Jack Ruby from other people?

Mrs. Cheek.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

You mean now you only met him?

Mrs. Cheek.

I had heard people talk about Jack Ruby, but I didn't inquire about him.

Mr. Griffin.

I take it other people that you know had told you things about Jack Ruby?