Mr. Griffin.

do it, and I think it could be done fairly simply. I know in the past that photographers can set the camera on a kitchen table and run these things through. I take it then when Jack Ruby contacted you in connection with buying out a part of the Carousel Club, that he got your name from somebody?

Mrs. Cheek.

I Was looking at a piece of property over on Maple Avenue when Olen Alexander or Bob Shockley, two more agents called me about buying the place myself. I went over to look at the building and they asked me what would go in the building, and I think a nice nightclub, it is in the neighborhood like it would, so I guess they gave it to Jack Ruby because when I mentioned the nightclub, because I said I might even invest in it myself, I was so sold on it, so Jack Ruby called me and asked me if I would invest in it. Not this particular piece of property. He didn't tell me where he had this location, but I just know that that was how he got my name.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, are we talking about your most recent discussion with Jack or the first one?

Mrs. Cheek.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Let's talk about the first time you contacted Jack.

Mrs. Cheek.

He had it for sale.

Mr. Griffin.

He had the Carousel for sale?

Mrs. Cheek.

Yes; and I had someone that was interested in a night club, so I went down to see about it, see how much he would sell it for, and he said $12,500. I said that was too much. My conversation was very short, and I left.

Mr. Griffin.

All right, you met him at the Carousel?

Mrs. Cheek.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Was anybody with him at that time? Anybody else at this meeting?

Mrs. Cheek.

There was activity all in there. I don't know who the people were.

Mr. Griffin.

Did anybody accompany you in connection with this?

Mrs. Cheek.

Yes; I think Mrs. Davidson went down with me.

Mr. Griffin.

Davidson? What is her first name?

Mrs. Cheek.

Lula B. Davidson.

Mr. Griffin.

Does she live here in Dallas?

Mrs. Cheek.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Where does she live?

Mrs. Cheek.

Over on Normandy.

Mr. Griffin.

IS she in the real estate business?

Mrs. Cheek.

No. She was a schoolteacher of mine. Just happened to be at the house when I started to go down, and I asked her if she would like to go. She taught me in school in Tyler, Tex. I don't think that she would remember too much about it because it was such a--just went down with me. It wasn't a real big issue made, and I said, "Would you like to go with me to see about a nightclub," and she said, "Yes; I would." So I just walked up and talked to Jack Ruby and asked him how much he wanted for the club's half interest, and he said $12,500, and I left because I didn't think it was worth it.

Mr. Griffin.

Had Jack had an advertisement in the newspaper about this?

Mrs. Cheek.

Yes; he did.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, when you first called Jack, what did he tell you when you talked to him over the telephone that time?

Mrs. Cheek.

I don't remember the exact words. I usually tell people when I contact them about business, I would like to meet them in their office or in their place of business.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you make an appointment and go down? You didn't talk to him about what he wanted or what kind of property he had over the telephone?

Mrs. Cheek.

No; didn't make any discussion.

Mr. Griffin.

Did Jack's ad indicate he was selling the full interest, or half interest?

Mrs. Cheek.

Half, and he wanted a partner.

Mr. Griffin.

So you would have been a partner?

Mrs. Cheek.

No; I wouldn't. When I invest, I make a corporation out of