Mr. Armstrong.

Yes; I would say he stayed about that.

Mr. Hubert.

And who followed him?

Mr. Armstrong.

Bill DeMar.

Mr. Hubert.

And how long did Bill stay--Bill DeMar stay?

Mr. Armstrong.

Bill DeMar stayed up until after the assassination.

Mr. Hubert.

And how long had Bill DeMar been there when the assassination took place?

Mr. Armstrong.

3 weeks---3 or 4 weeks, I guess.

Mr. Hubert.

You think that Bill DeMar came in there about the 1st of November?

Mr. Armstrong.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And that he took the place of Sal Vincent?

Mr. Armstrong.

Yes--no--no, he took the place of this man right here [indicating picture].

Mr. Hubert.

That man?

Mr. Armstrong.

The man I can't identify.

Mr. Hubert.

He took the place of the man whose name you can't remember, in Exhibit 5303-J, but whose name you don't remember?

Mr. Armstrong.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

If you do happen to remember his name a little later on, will you interrupt me and tell us about it?

Mr. Armstrong.

All right.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you realize anybody else in that picture, identified as Exhibit 5303-J?

Mr. Armstrong.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

All right, then I show you a picture which has been marked for identification as Exhibit 5303-K, and I ask you to look at it.

Mr. Armstrong.

All right [examining instrument referred to].

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know what the place is?

Mr. Armstrong.

Well, that's the club--I'm sure of that--I'm sure that that is the Carousel Club.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you recognize anybody in it at all?

Mr. Armstrong.

Yes; the waitress in the upper right-hand corner.

Mr. Hubert.

The waitress in the far background in the upper right-hand corner, whose profile can be seen, and also her left arm--she seems to have a white blouse on, right?

Mr. Armstrong.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

She is standing by a picture frame or a window or something, correct?

Mr. Armstrong.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Who is that?

Mr. Armstrong.

That's our little Margie---her name is Margie.

Mr. Hubert.

Margie what?

Mr. Armstrong.

Marie Norman.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you recognize anybody else?

Mr. Armstrong.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

I'm marking with an arrow, which I am placing my initials on, and I ask you to place your initials on next to that arrow too, and the arrow points to a man about in the center of the picture at the bottom, and he has on what appears to be a grayish cheked shirt--you can see him by profile he parts his hair on his left side. Do you know who that man is?

Mr. Armstrong.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Have you ever seen him before?

Mr. Armstrong.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

And you recognize nobody else in the picture?

Mr. Armstrong.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, I show you pictures marked for identification as Exhibits 5303-L, and ask you if you recognize the place, first?

Mr. Armstrong.

It's the Carousel Club.

Mr. Hubert.

Who is on the stage holding the mike?

Mr. Armstrong.

Jack Ruby.

Mr. Hubert.

Who else is in the picture that you recognize?