Mr. Hubert.

What do you know about her?

Mr. Armstrong.

Just that she is a stripper at the club.

Mr. Hubert.

How long had she been there?

Mr. Armstrong.

She had been there some maybe 4 months before the assassination.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you think she came about the middle of the summer, then, July or August?

Mr. Armstrong.

Let me see--let's---see September.

Mr. Hubert.

Mid-September?

Mr. Armstrong.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Do--how do you fix that, Mr. Armstrong?

Mr. Armstrong.

Well, it was around the time that Wally left. I don't know whether she was there right after Wally left or just before Wally left.

Mr. Hubert.

Had she ever been there before, do you know?

Mr. Armstrong.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Had long did she stay after the assassination?

Mr. Armstrong.

She left sometime--during the about 3 weeks in January of 1964.

Mr. Hubert.

You mean she was there 3 weeks in January and then quit?

Mr. Armstrong.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know where she lived?

Mr. Armstrong.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

What salary do those strippers get?

Mr. Armstrong.

Anywhere from $100 to $125.

Mr. Hubert.

A week?

Mr. Armstrong.

A week--some of them made $150--some was $200.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know what the relationship was between Joyce McDonald and Jack Ruby, if any?

Mr. Armstrong.

Just a business relationship as far as I could see.

Mr. Hubert.

Did she go out to dinner with him?

Mr. Alexander.

Not that I know of.

Mr. Hubert.

Did there seem to be any kind of social relationship between them?

Mr. Armstrong.

Not that I know.

Mr. Hubert.

Did there seem to be any kind of romantic or sexual relationship between them?

Mr. Armstrong.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Did Ruby have any sexual or romantic relationships with any of the girls in his club?

Mr. Armstrong.

Well, I would say he had some, as far as I know romantic relationships. In other words, he was always on the make.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, coming to Joyce McDonald, do you think she--that he was on the make with respect to her?

Mr. Armstrong.

I would not state definitely, but I believe he probably tried.

Mr. Hubert.

Did she have any boy friends around there?

Mr. Armstrong.

No; not that I know of.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know whom she lived with?

Mr. Armstrong.

No; I sure don't.

Mr. Hubert.

Did she drive an automobile?

Mr. Armstrong.

She didn't drive.

Mr. Hubert.

How did she get to and from work; do you know?

Mr. Armstrong.

Usually somebody would bring her to work--I only saw her downstairs getting out of a car once and some man drove her to work, and that's the only time I ever saw her getting out of a car.

Mr. Hubert.

You would usually leave at night before they did didn't you?

Mr. Armstrong.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

What about the other girl, the one on the right-hand side of the pictures as you look at them, which have been identified as series Exhibits 5301-A through 5301-E? I think you have said that the girls there, the blonde; is "Little" Lynn or Karen Bennett Carlin, is that correct?

Mr. Alexander.

That's correct.

Mr. Hubert.

She was married to Bruce Carlin?