Mr. Hubert.

During what period?

Mr. Armstrong.

Oh, during the period of--I would say 2 months before the assassination through the end of the year. She left about the third week in January, I would say, approximately 3 weeks she worked during 1964.

Mr. Hubert.

She was a stripper, was she?

Mr. Armstrong.

She was a striper.

Mr. Hubert.

You have heard that Jack was supposed to have been in the B & B Care with some girl either before the President was shot, the night before or the night after, haven't you?

Mr. Armstrong.

Yes, I heard that.

Mr. Hubert.

As a matter of fact, I think you were asked about that by the FBI?

Mr. Armstrong.

I don't know--I don't know whether I was or not. Somebody asked me about it--yes, I'm pretty sure it must have been the FBI.

Mr. Hubert.

Didn't you identify the girl as being Joyce McDonald?

Mr. Armstrong.

No, I don't recall--no, I wouldn't have---I wouldn't have identified the girl as being Joyce McDonald, because I wouldn't have had any way of knowing who it was unless they described her to me, and as I said, it could have been Joyce.

Mr. Hubert.

You remember a girl who worked about 5 or 6 nights at the Carousel Club and whom Ruby had token home after closing hours on each of the nights she works?
This was a girl that you tried to locate after Oswald was shot to help you run the club?
Do you remember looking for such a girl?

Mr. Armstrong.

Oh, that was the lady--oh---I don't recall her name now-"Duckie" or something like that.

Mr. Hubert.

Tell us about that lady, in any case?

Mr. Armstrong.

Well, all I know is that Jack had told me she had some knowledge of club running and that she was very smart and sharp and when I had went to see him, he had suggested that if I--he said----

Mr. Hubert.

You mean when you went to see him in jail?

Mr. Armstrong.

Yes, he said, "I don't want to be involved with the club any more, but if you want to do it, you can contact this lady." He give me her name---it was "Duckie" or something like that, to come down and give you a hand, because she knows something about operating a club and you can talk to Ralph about it.

Mr. Hubert.

And you tried to find that girl?

Mr. Armstrong.

I tried to contact her and I didn't have any luck and told Ralph about it and he said "forget it."

Mr. Hubert.

Now, that girl you remember as being the girl who had been around the club four or five or six time; isn't that correct?

Mr. Armstrong.

Right.

Mr. Hubert.

And that Jack used to take home at night?

Mr. Armstrong.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

I don't mean to his house, but he did--he left with her, at any rate?

Mr. Armstrong.

I don't know whether he left with her or not because I leave before he does.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, do you remember making the statement to the FBI to the effect you knew of one girl there that worked for 5 or 6 nights, it was the same girl you looked for later, and that Ruby had taken her home after closing hours on each of the nights she had worked there?

Mr. Armstrong.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

You say you went to see Jack in the jail?

Mr. Armstrong.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

How many times did you go to see him?

Mr. Armstrong.

Oh, five or six, maybe seven times.

Mr. Hubert.

Were you alone with him all the time?

Mr. Armstrong.

No; there was always a policeman standing there. A guard.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he talk about his difficulties?