Mr. Armstrong.

and she didn't like guns, so when it come to the question of a gun. she, by being a woman, and you know how women are about being curious, she asked the question, but she asked a whole lot of other questions about things she never knew.

Mr. Hubert.

So, your testimony is that when you found that Ruby had shot Oswald, you were not surprised that he was carrying a gun?

Mr. Hubert.

Have you ever talked to any members of Ruby's family about the man?
Mr. ARMSTR0NG. About the gun?

Mr. Huebrt.

No; about Ruby's case.

Mr. Armstrong.

No; not other than Mrs. Grant called me and talked to me and she would do most of the talking---- this and that and it's always about the same thing and it just bugs me, you know.

Mr. Hubert.

You have only spoken to her by phone since Ruby shot Oswald?

Mr. Armstrong.

No; I spoke to her in person. I have seen her at the club a couple of times. She has been up there and I have seen her down at the courthouse and I saw her a number of times up to the club after the club had been closed, down at the club trying to sell it.

Mr. Hubert.

Did she ever talk about the case itself?

Mr. Armstrong.

No; not to--not any more than any other sister would say when her brother was being locked up or committed a crime.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, when you were subpenaed, did you ever ask her or anybody what they were calling you for?

Mr. Armstrong.

No; I didn't ask anyone.

Mr. Hubert.

And you just hung around the court during the entire time of the trial?

Mr. Armstrong.

Not the entire time of the trial; the last week of the trial--Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday.

Mr. Hubert.

Those were the only 3 days you were there?

Mr. Armstrong.

Just those 3 days.

Mr. Hubert.

You received your subpena after the trial began?

Mr. Armstrong.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And you were there for 3 days?

Mr. Armstrong.

Three days.

Mr. Hubert.

The trial ended on Saturday, I think?

Mr. Armstrong.

Right.

Mr. Hubert.

Who excused you?

Mr. Armstrong.

Phil Burleson.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he tell you why?

Mr. Armstrong.

He just said--I asked him the second day---I ask him, I said "Well, listen, when are you going to use me, because I've got a job and these people are not going to hold off---they are going to hire somebody else."
And he said, "We are going to put you on tomorrow, in fact we will get to you tomorrow," and Belli changed his mind about using me on account of the record I have.

Mr. Hubert.

How did you find that out?

Mr. Armstrong.

Phil Burleson came out that afternoon and told me and I kept asking him---no, that was after the judge had recessed for that day I asked him, I said, "Listen, I've got to go to work tomorrow," and he says "Well, go ahead, Belli is not going to use you on account of your record," and so, to my surprise I lost my ob by not being able to work those 3 days.

Mr. Huebrt.

Who were you employed by then?

Mr. Armstrong.

Well, I had just started with Yardell Construction Co., they build houses-homes.

Mr. Hubert.

Other than the time you spoke to Belli at the club and he asked you what you thought about Jack or why he killed him and you told him, did you ever speak to Belli or anybody else about what your testimony would be about?

Mr. Armstrong.

No; never.

Mr. Hubert.

So, that as far as you know, they were going to question you about your opinion about Jack?