Mr. Armstrong.

Because the license was in Jack's name and it was obvious he had violated those liquor licenses when he shot Oswald.

Mr. Hubert.

Had you ever seen anybody at the club that looked like Oswald?

Mr. Armstrong.

No; never did.

Mr. Hubert.

Have you seen Oswald himself in the club?

Mr. Armstrong.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you ever tell anybody that you had?

Mr. Armstrong.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Specifically, did you ever tell Larry Crafard that you had?

Mr. Armstrong.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know Billy DeMur?

Mr. Armstrong.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Who is he?

Mr. Armstrong.

He was an M.C.

Mr. Hubert.

He also had a memory act, didn't he?

Mr. Armstrong.

Yes, he did.

Mr. Hubert.

You have heard the story, haven't you?

Mr. Armstrong.

Yes; I have heard the story.

Mr. Hubert.

That he said he had seen Oswald in the club?

Mr. Armstrong.

That's what he told me---he said he thought that he saw somebody that could have been Oswald.

Mr. Hubert.

When did he tell you that?

Mr. Armstrong.

That was later--he said--he was walking around every night saying that the newspaper misunderstood what he had said. He said he definitely did not state the statement that they had in the paper.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you think it is possible that you told Larry Crafard that you had seen him, that you thought you had seen somebody that looked like Oswald in the club?

Mr. Armstrong.

No, it isn't possible---no.

Mr. Hubert.

We have been going for 3 hours, and let's adjourn for lunch.
(At this point the proceedings in the deposition of Andrew Armstrong were recessed for lunch and resumed at 1:35 p.m. on the same date, April 14, 1964, as follows:)

Mr. Hubert.

Mr. Armstrong, you understand that we are continuing the deposition which we started this morning, and which we adjourned at about noon, and you understand that we are continuing it under the same oath and conditions upon which it was begun. You understand further that you are under the same oath you took this morning at the very beginning of-the deposition?

Mr. Armstrong.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you consider yourself to be under that same oath?

Mr. Armstrong.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Let me clarify one point before I go further--with reference to the gun or pistol that you have already testified about, can you give us a description of it?

Mr. Armstrong.

Let's see it was not a large gun, a small barrel on it, I guess you would call it a snub nose.

Mr. Hubert.

I notice you were holding your fingers apart there?

Mr. Armstrong.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And would you say you were holding them about 5 inches apart?

Mr. Armstrong.

About 5 inches, I would say.

Mr. Hubert.

And that's the whole length of the gun from one tip to the other?

Mr. Armstrong.

Yes; I would say so.

Mr. Hubert.

Was it a revolver?

Mr. Armstrong.

Yes; I think it was a revolver.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you remember what kind of barrel it had on it?

Mr. Armstrong.

Well, it had a little short barrel.

Mr. Hubert.

BUt I mean, what color was it; black, blue, steel?

Mr. Armstrong.

Well, It was--I don't remember--I only saw the gun, you know, in sight--you know I saw the bag a jillion times, but the gun only a couple of times, I would say.

Mr. Hubert.

What kind of handle did it have on it; do you remember?

Mr. Armstrong.

I think it had a brown handle on it.