Mr. Armstrong.

Well, he would always go two or three time I'm sure a week, that he was at the bank. I don't know whether he deposited money or not, but he did have an account and there was an account there in the name of the Carousel Club.

Mr. Hubert.

But do you know of your own knowledge whether he used it as a checking account normally is used?

Mr. Armstrong.

It was used as a checking account, but I never--I have seen checks that he had written, that was, you know, after they went through and then he got them back--I had seen those.

Mr. Hubert.

Canceled checks--you mean?

Mr. Armstrong.

No, no; checks that went through the bank already and went through his deposit.

Mr. Hubert.

That's what I mean by canceled checks--in other words, after the check goes through, it is returned to the maker.

Mr. Armstrong.

Returned--yes--right.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he have a lot of those?

Mr. Armstrong.

I saw quite a few small payments on different things, but I don't know whether he had a whole lot of them or not.

Mr. Hubert.

What I am trying to get at, Mr. Armstrong, is whether or not Ruby kept the income from the Carousel on his person or did he deposit it in the bank?

Mr. Armstrong.

Well, I believe that the biggest part of his money, he kept it in his purse on his person.

Mr. Hubert.

Have you any idea how much he would have on his person in that way as an average?

Mr. Armstrong.

No, it would be hard to say, because I have seen times when he would come in and he would have quite a bit of money in his pocket, but it would all be, you know, rubber bands--wrapped around with rubber bands, and he never would take it a loose or anything like that. A few times he would get it all mixed up in his pocket and he would straighten out the tens and the ones--separate the ones from the fives, you know.

Mr. Hubert.

Who made the payroll?

Mr. Armstrong.

He made the payroll.

Mr. Hubert.

Didn't you ever do that?

Mr. Armstrong.

After the slaying.

Mr. Hubert.

No, I mean before that.

Mr. Armstrong.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you assist him in making the payroll?

Mr. Armstrong.

No; I didn't work on Sunday night.

Mr. Hubert.

And that's when he paid everybody?

Mr. Armstrong.

That's when he paid everybody.

Mr. Hubert.

But you do know he paid by cash?

Mr. Armstrong.

He paid by cash.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you ever see him take any money to his automobile?

Mr. Armstrong.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

What would he do with it when he put it in his automobile?

Mr. Armstrong.

What would he do with it? He would put it in his trunk--that he had in his pocket he would keep in his pocket--and that he had in his little moneybag he would put it in his trunk.

Mr. Hubert.

He had a moneybag in the trunk?

Mr. Armstrong.

He had a little sack--the same one he carried his pistol in, in a little Merchants State Bank, a little moneybag.

Mr. Hubert.

And the pistol was in that bag?

Mr. Armstrong.

Usually it would be in one of those little money bank bags.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you ever see him carry the pistol on his body?

Mr. Armstrong.

No; it would always be in a little bag.

Mr. Hubert.

There was no occasion at all when you ever saw him have that pistol in his pocket or stuck in his waist belt?

Mr. Armstrong.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know what he kept the pistol for?

Mr. Armstrong.

Well, I always assumed he kept it for--because he carried the cash on him.