Mr. Armstrong.

Yes--that's when I first met Mr. Decker.

Mr. Hubert.

How often did you see him after you left the penitentiary and until the shooting of Oswald?

Mr. Armstrong.

Well, I only saw him--let's see we will come back to about January 1962 had got a job at Marilyn Belt Factory just across from the county jail, and I used to see Mr. Decker, you know, I used to pass him on the street there and I would always speak to him, which he always would speak back, which he would always speak back to everyone who speaks to him whether he knows them or not, and I guess I saw him 10 or 15 times.

Mr. Hubert.

Were you ever in his office?

Mr. Armstrong.

Not until after the slaying of Lee Oswald, the one time was for the investigation.

Mr. Hubert.

So, in other words, after you left the penitentiary your acquaintance with Sheriff Decker amounted to nothing more than seeing him on the streets and saying "hello?"

Mr. Armstrong.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

You never conversed with him?

Mr. Armstrong.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you have any reason to believe he knew your name?

Mr. Armstrong.

No, he didn't know my name until after the slaying.

Mr. Hubert.

Can you tell us why he has agreed now to support your application for a pardon?

Mr. Armstrong.

Well, I believe that Mr. Decker did some investigating on me and when I went in to ask him, he went through the procedure of having my record checked, since I have been out, and before he recommended me.

Mr. Hubert.

Tell me, in connection with the application for a pardon, is it necessary to get the approval of the sherriff?

Mr. Armstrong.

It is necessary to get the approval of some officer.

Mr. Hubert.

And you chose the sheriff?

Mr. Armstrong.

And I chose the sheriff. I was either going to choose the sheriff or Mr. Gilmore, the head of the vice squad. He has been in the club lots of times.

Mr. Hubert.

What is his name?

Mr. Armstrong.

Gilbert--I don't know whether he's in charge of the vice squad for the city or not, but he is around and he has been to the club, checking in like he does, like policemen do, and he got to---he would always speak to me when he come in and he was always very nice and I was always very nice to him and I'm pretty sure he had some checking done on me, too.

Mr. Hubert.

But, in any case, you chose Sheriff Decker?

Mr. Armstrong.

But I chose one of the two of them because I didn't know anybody else to approach--any other officers.

Mr. Hubert.

All right, I think we had left off with our analysis of your employment since you left the penitentiary, that you had worked for the Holiday Hills Apartments--how long did you work for them?

Mr. Armstrong.

Oh, about 8 or 9 months---t wasn't too long.

Mr. Hubert.

And that employment began, in the summer of 1961?

Mr. Armstrong.

Yes, and it ended a little before Christmas--I think it was around the let of December.

Mr. Hubert.

Of 1961?

Mr. Armstrong.

Of 1961.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, it would hardly have been 9 months.

Mr. Armstrong.

I believe that's right--I imagine.

Mr. Hubert.

You think then, you actually began to work with them probably in May or June of 1961?

Mr. Armstrong.

Well----

Mr. Hubert.

Well, you see, if you left just before Christmas?

Mr. Armstrong.

You know, come to think of it, I think it was, because it was around the spring--so It must have been about the last of April or the let of May.

Mr. Hubert.

Then, you worked for about 7 months and left around Christmas?

Mr. Armstrong.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

What was the reason for your leaving?