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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XIII - Page 268« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Vernon S. Smart)

Mr. Griffin.
And what time did you come to work that day?
Mr. Smart.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Smart.
7 a.m.
Mr. Griffin.
Now, you are in charge of the auto theft division, is that right?
Mr. Griffin.
IS there any officer who is above you in the. auto theft division?
Mr. Smart.
At that time?
Mr. Griffin.
Yes.
Mr. Smart.
No. You say are there or was there?
Mr. Griffin.
Was there at that time?
Mr. Smart.
No, sir.
Mr. Griffin.
Now, what was the relationship of Captain Nichols?
Mr. Smart.
He was off duty that day.
Mr. Griffin.
I see But he is also an officer in it?
Mr. Smart.
He is in charge of it.
Mr. Griffin.
He is----
Mr. Smart.
He is the captain.
Mr. Griffin.
He is in charge of the whole division?
Mr. Smart.
The whole bureau.
Mr. Griffin.
I see.
Mr. Smart.
In his absence, I am in charge.
Mr. Griffin.
I see. Now, what time did you leave on the 23d, leave work?
Mr. Smart.
It was late in the afternoon I don't remember the time.
Mr. Griffin.
On the 23d, did you give any assisstance in connection with the investigation of the murder of the President, did you lend any assistance to that----
Mr. Smart.
No, sir.
Mr. Griffin.
To that investigation?
Mr. Smart.
No, sir.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you lend any assistance in connection with preserving security in the building or press relation or anything like that?
Mr. Smart.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Griffin.
Can you tell us----I am talking about the 23d.
Mr. Smart.
Twenty-third?
Mr. Griffin.
Can you tell us what you did on the 23d in that regard?
Mr. Smart.
I was told by Chief Stevenson to have all of the men in my bureau to stand by to assist in the transfer of Oswald.
Mr. Griffin.
Now, when were you told this by Chief Stevenson?
Mr. Smart.
It must have been--I can't say for sure in the neighborhood of 8 or 9 o'clock in the morning.
Mr. Griffin.
On Saturday morning?
Mr. Smart.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Griffin.
That is the day before the transfer.
Mr. Smart.
Said he didn't know what time they were going to move him but to have all of the men stand by available.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you then pass the word throughout your division?
Mr. Smart.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you prepare any written memorandum of this?
Mr. Smart.
No, sir.
Mr. Griffin.
Would there be anything in writing to indicate what sort of instructions were given or that there were instructions given?
Mr. Smart.
All verbal.
Mr. Grffin.
Do you remember talking with any particular men about this in your department?
Mr. Smart.
I talked to each one of them, told them to stand by and I would tell them when to report to the basement.
Mr. Griffin.
I see. Now, of course, nothing happened, he wasn't moved that day, Oswald was not moved on Saturday?
Mr. Smart.
Wait a minute. I am all crossed up.
Mr. Griffin.
I thought you were.
Mr. Smart.
I am talking about the day he was moved.
Mr. Griffin.
Okay.
Mr. Smart.
I am all crossed up.
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