Mr. Montgomery.

Go to the city hall, there is a double door that goes into the city hall----

Mr. Griffin.

That is the one that goes in that hallway?

Mr. Montgomery.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

How about the engineroom door?

Mr. Montgomery.

I didn't pay that much attention to it to say yea or nay.

Mr. Griffin.

When you walked in there, where did you go when you got into the hallway?

Mr. Montgomery.

Just went to the elevator.

Mr. Griffin.

That's right by the record----

Mr. Montgomery.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you see anybody that you knew in the area of the basement, other than police officers?

Mr. Montgomery.

Anybody I knew?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mr. Montgomery.

Other than police, I think just several civilians behind the desk over there, just the records clerk.

Mr. Griffin.

From there did you go to the homicide bureau?

Mr. Montgomery.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

What time do you estimate you arrived at the homicide bureau?

Mr. Montgomery.

Probably about 10 after 8 when I got there.

Mr. Griffin.

Who was there when you arrived?

Mr. Montgomery.

Oh, Captain Fritz and Dhority, Leavelle and Graves, and I believe Mr. Beck and Brown was there.

Mr. Griffin.

All right; did you talk to any of them when you came in?

Mr. Montgomery.

Oh, I'm sure I passed the time of day with them.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you remember anything about any conversation you might have had with them?

Mr. Montgomery.

No; nothing outstanding.

Mr. Griffin.

What did you do when you arrived there? What sort of work did you start to do when you arrived at the homicide bureau?

Mr. Montgomery.

As soon as I walked in they walked out for coffee.

Mr. Griffin.

And you went out for coffee with them?

Mr. Montgomery.

No; I stayed there. Of course, I had just gotten there, so, I stayed and answered the telephones while they went out and had coffee.

Mr. Griffin.

How long did you continue to answer the phone?

Mr. Montgomery.

Of course when they went and drank coffee and came right back; I guess for probably 30 minutes.

Mr. Griffin.

What did you do when they got back?

Mr. Montgomery.

When they got back, of course, captain told us at that time that he was going to transfer Oswald later on and I think he said about 10, or something like that; so he sent two of the officers out to get Oswald and bring him down. Wanted to talk to him. I was trying to remember what two went up after him. Anyway, two of them went up and brought him down. I don't remember which two it was.

Mr. Griffin.

When Fritz came out and talked about this, where were you standing?

Mr. Montgomery.

What's that?

Mr. Griffin.

When he sent these two men up.

Mr. Montgomery.

Yes; told them to go up and get him.

Mr. Griffin.

Where were you standing?

Mr. Montgomery.

Just outside of the office door.

Mr. Griffin.

And Fritz was outside of the office door?

Mr. Montgomery.

Stepped up to the door there.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he give you any instructions?

Mr. Montgomery.

No; didn't tell me anything in particular right then.

Mr. Griffin.

What is your estimate of what time that was?

Mr. Montgomery.

Let's see, approximately around 9 o'clock, somewhere around 9.

Mr. Griffin.

When, between the time you arrived and the time Fritz came out, did you talk with anybody about the possible movement of Oswald to the county jail?