Mr. Lane.

Yes; it is.

Mr. Hubert.

Were you on duty on the morning of November 24, 1963?

Mr. Lane.

Yes; I was.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you see a man by the name of Jack Ruby that day?

Mr. Lane.

Yes; I did.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you know him prior to that time?

Mr. Lane.

I had known him through patronage.

Mr. Hubert.

In other words, when he came into the Western Union office that day you recognized him as Jack Ruby, a man with whom you had done Western Union telegraph business?

Mr. Lane.

When he handed me the money order. I did not see him come in. do not know when he came in.

Mr. Hubert.

Will you just state in your own words what transpired between you and Jack Ruby on the morning of November 24, 1963?

Mr. Lane.

Well, he came to the counter and handed me the money order to be sent. I rated the money order and put the necessary transmission marks on it. Wrote out a receipt for the money he handed me and I believe it was $30, to pay for the money order. I handed him back his receipt and his change. He turned around and walked out the door.

Mr. Hubert.

The first time you saw him, therefore, is when he came up to the counter with a completed--partially completed form for the transmission of money by Western Union?

Mr. Lane.

That is the first I had seen him that day.

Mr. Hubert.

Therefore, you don't know how long he was in the office?

Mr. Lane.

I have no idea.

Mr. Hubert.

Prior to the time he came up.

Mr. Lane.

I have no idea.

Mr. Hubert.

Is there a public telephone available to anyone who is in the lobby?

Mr. Lane.

Yes, there is.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you see him use the telephone?

Mr. Lane.

I did not.

Mr. Hubert.

On that morning, was there any kind of radio, or TV in the Western Union office, whereby a person in that office could have heard the news concerning the pending transfer of Oswald from the city hall to the county jail?

Mr. Lane.

Not in the office; no.

Mr. Hubert.

No one had a small radio or transistor?

Mr. Lane.

The messenger boy had a transistor, but he was out delivering, and he did not get back until 10 or 15 minutes after that.

Mr. Hubert.

There was no radio or television audible or visible to anyone in the Western Union office at the time Jack Ruby was them?

Mr. Lane.

No, there was not.

Mr. Hubert.

Mr. Lane, I am marking two documents, which have already been identified by Mr. W. W. Semingsen, president--vice president of the Western Union Telegram Co., when his deposition was taken by Mr. Wesley J. Liebeler, a member of the staff of the President's Commission. On the first document have marked "Dallas, Texas, March 31, 1964. Exhibit 5118, Deposition of Doyle Lane." I have placed my name under this language. It purports to be a photostatic copy of the original which Mr. Semingsen produced at his deposition. In order that the record may show that you and I are both talking about the same document, I ask you to put your name below mine on this document. Now, I am marking the other document as follows: "Dallas, Texas, March 31, 1964. Exhibit 5119, Deposition of Doyle Lane," and signing my name on that, and ask you to put your name on it so that the record may show that we are talking about the same document. Now, I ask you to look at Exhibit 5118, and state for the record what that document is.

Mr. Lane.

This is a money order application filed to send money. $25. Karen Bennett, Fort Worth, Tex., from Jack Ruby.

Mr. Hubert.

I notice that there are several handwritings on that, and, of course, you will identify your own in a moment. Can you state for the record