Mr. Hubert.

Was it in 1963?

Mrs. Carlin.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Let me put it this way. Perhaps we can arrive at it this way. How long before the death of the President did you start to work for Mr. Ruby?

Mrs. Carlin.

I don't know. I would say about 2 months. I hadn't been there very long.

Mr. Hubert.

What sort of employment did you obtain with him?

Mrs. Carlin.

Stripper.

Mr. Hubert.

What was your compensation for the job? I mean, was it salary?

Mrs. Carlin.

It was salary. Seven days a week. It was $120 a week.

Mr. Hubert.

A hundred and twenty dollars a week and a 7-day week?

Mrs. Carlin.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

On what day of the week were you paid?

Mrs. Carlin.

On Saturdays.

Mr. Hubert.

Saturday nights?

Mrs. Carlin.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Who paid you?

Mrs. Carlin.

Jack Ruby.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you know a man by the name of Ralph Paul?

Mrs. Carlin.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

What was your understanding of his relation to Jack Ruby or to the Carousel?

Mrs. Carlin.

Well, as I understood it, I met him in the. office of Jack Ruby, and he was supposed to be a friend from Chicago that had known him, and he just introduced me as Ralph. And the only thing I knew was that he was a friend of Jack Ruby's. I didn't know he had any connection with the club at all.

Mr. Hubert.

You don't know now?

Mrs. Carlin.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you see this gentleman Ralph Paul only once?

Mrs. Carlin.

Yes. Before the killing of the President, I only saw him once. But after that, I saw him all the time. He came in all the time.

Mr. Hubert.

You mean he was actually operating the club after?

Mrs. Carlin.

Yes, afterwards.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you find out then that he was the owner and operator of a drive-in restaurant called the Bull Pen at Arlington?

Mrs. Carlin.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

You don't know that now?

Mrs. Carlin.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

But in any case, prior to the time when Oswald was shot, you had met Paul only once, and you don't know what his relationship was?

Mrs. Carlin.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

About this young man called Andrew Armstrong, do you recall him?

Mrs. Carlin.

The colored man?

Mr. Hubert.

Yes.

Mrs. Carlin.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

What was his function there?

Mrs. Carlin.

Well, he was supposed to be the janitor to clean up and do little errands and to run the bar. Afterwards, it turned out that he also had a part in running the club.

Mr. Hubert.

You mean after?

Mrs. Carlin.

After the President was killed.

Mr. Hubert.

You stayed on at the club until what date?

Mrs. Carlin.

It was December. I quit--no, I couldn't say it was in December. It was right before the first. It was a week before the first.

Mr. Hubert.

The first of the year?

Mrs. Carlin.

January; yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know a man by the name of Larry Crafard?

Mrs. Carlin.

Not by name; no.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you remember Larry?