Mr. Griffin.

Off of the record here.
(Discussion off of the record.)

Mr. Griffin.

We will go on the record on this. I have asked Mr. Hubert to check in our files to see if we have got a copy of this report that you mentioned that you gave to Chief Curry. Now, I don't have any recollection that we have it, and let me ask you now, if he doesn't report back to me and say that we have it, would you be good enough, when you go back to work today, to check where a copy of this report is and provide it to us? I am going to ask you to clear it with your superiors and everything.

Mr. Eberhardt.

All right.

Mr. Griffin.

I would like to see a copy of that. What did that report deal with?

Mr. Eberhardt.

This was information given to me by a police reserve who I know real well who was on duty at the time. He didn't think anything about telling anybody about it, and several days later he told me about it, about going out to the-hospital when Oswald was shot and talking to another reserve out there, that he didn't know his name, who said that he had seen or thought he had seen a man walk down the ramp outside of the city hall.

Mr. Griffin.

Who was the reserve officer that gave you this information?

Mr. Eberhardt.

H. B. Holly, Jr. And as soon as he told me about it, I sat down and wrote a "Dear Chief," and gave it to my captain.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you have occasion yourself to talk to this unknown reserve officer?

Mr. Eberhardt.

No; I didn't. I talked to Holly.

Mr. Griffin.

Okay. Mr. Hubert indicated to me that we didn't have a copy of this report, and I would appreciate very much seeing it.

Mr. Eberthardt.

Okay. I will try.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you remember what you did in the period between the time you saw Ruby, at which you estimated at 6 or 7 p.m., and when you saw him later on at the press conference?

Mr. Eberhardt.

I worked--I just worked my day out, and then they held us over.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you stay in?

Mr. Eberhardt.

Yes. They had us on standby. I did paper work, caught up on supplements. They held us over a little bit, and then we had the press conference. When they brought Oswald in, we stood with him, myself and a couple of other detectives.

Mr. Griffin.

You stood next, right next, to Oswald for the purpose of guarding him?

Mr. Eberhardt.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

And were you able to look out over the crowd?

Mr. Eberhardt.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, where did you see Ruby in the crowd?

Mr. Eberhardt.

He was on the right-hand side of the room standing up on one of the tables with a notebook and pencil in his hand, with all of the reporters and cameramen out there. They were facing us. They were in the assembly room.

Mr. Griffin.

Who were the other people guarding?

Mr. Eberhardt.

There was a whole line, a whole line in front of the showup. I was standing about three people removed behind Oswald. I was standing behind Oswald and the reporters were shooting questions at them.

Mr. Griffin.

Was he seated?

Mr. Eberhardt.

No; he was standing. We were all standing.

Mr. Griffin.

You were able to look over his shoulder?

Mr. Eberhardt.

Oh, yes; I had a full view of the room.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall what other police officers were down there with you guarding Oswald and looking out?

Mr. Eberhardt.

Well, Mr. Wade was there; Chief Curry was there; Captain King was there.

Mr. Griffin.

What other detectives were guarding Oswald?

Mr. Eberhardt.

Well, homicide detectives were there. I don't know which ones they were. The ones that, you know, were working on him, probably Leavelle and his partner. Joe Cody was there. That is the only ones I