Mr. Griffin.

p.m. on Friday night, November 22, that you recall seeing Jack Ruby on the third floor between 6 and 7 p.m. Will you tell us how you happened to---how you fix this as between 6 and 7 p.m.?

Mr. Eberhardt.

I was working afternoons, usually go to eat at around 5:30 or 6, and I already had eaten when I got back in the office when I seen Jack, and so make it around 7 o'clock.

Mr. Griffin.

Were you actually in the office when you saw Jack?

Mr. Eberhardt.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Where was Jack?

Mr. Eberhardt.

He had stuck his head in our door and hollered at us.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he come in and talk at all?

Mr. Eberhardt.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

How long did he remain in the office?

Mr. Eberhardt.

Oh, 10 or 15 minutes.

Mr. Griffin.

Who else was in the office with you at that time?

Mr. Eberhardt.

Our whole well, our shift was on. I don't recall who actually was in there, but Lieutenant Leonard's shift was on at that time. That is who I worked for at that time.

Mr. Griffin.

Give me as many of the people as you recall who would have been on that shift.

Mr. Eberhardt.

Let's see. I wouldn't know their days off, but I could tell you the names of everybody on the shift.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. Let's have that.

Mr. Eberhardt.

C. A. Jones, S. Tuck, P. Dillehay, J. R. Johnston, C. T. Burhey, W. P. Posey, R. A. Standifer, M. Tuck. Lieutenant, it was.

Mr. Griffin.

That is Lieutenant Leonard?

Mr. Eberhardt.

Yes; there is some more that I just can't--H. J. Bettes.

Mr. Griffin.

How do you spell that last name?

Mr. Eberhardt.

[Spelling.] B-e-t-t-e-s. Correction on Posey. He was on vacation. J. H. Boyd, that I can remember.

Mr. Griffin.

Those people that you have named, do you remember specifically if any of them were in the office when Jack came in?

Mr. Eberhardt.

Yes; the lieutenant was there, I think Jones was there, I thing Tuck was there, and they were in and out and reporters in and out, you know, it is hard to sit here and visualize who was standing there, and the secretaries were there, but I don't recall which were on duty.

Mr. Griffin.

You have a number of rooms in your office; don't you?

Mr. Eberhardt.

In our office?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mr. Eberhardt.

We have three interrogation rooms.

Mr. Griffin.

You have the main reception room, the interrogation rooms?

Mr. Eberhardt.

No, no; the only office that is closed off is the interrogation rooms.

Mr. Griffin.

As you walk into the office, you come into a room?

Mr. Eberhardt.

You come into an "L," and then the room opens up for you.
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Mr. Griffin.

Now, can you describe which room Jack came into?

Mr. Eberhardt.

He opened our door and walked in about three paces and Just stood there and talked.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he sit down at all?

Mr. Eberhardt.

No; he stood up.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, what do you remember him saying?

Mr. Eberhardt.

He came in and said hello to me, shook hands with me. I asked him what he was doing. He told me he was a translator for the newspapers. Of course, I knew that he could speak Yiddish. Had a notebook in his hand, and he talked a little bit about that, and then he said that he brought the coffee and sandwiches up for the reporters, corned beef sandwiches. He said, "Nothing but kosher stuff is all I bring." He talked a little bit about the assassination of the President.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you remember him saying--what he said about the assassination?