Mr. Pierce.

All right

Mr. Hubert.

Now, Mr. Pierce, I think you have appeared here today as a result of an informal request made for you to come here.

Mr. Pierce.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Under the rules of the Commission, you are actually entitled to a 3-day written notice before the taking of this deposition, but the rules also provide that you may waive that if you wish, and I must ask you first of all, do you waive the 3-day written notice to which you are normally entitled, and----

Mr. Pierce.

Sure.

Mr. Hubert.

You are ready to go ahead right now?

Mr. Pierce.

Sure. Didn't even know that I have a choice. In fact, it is quite fortunate that it came on this day. I am ready, and much prefer, as I expected this was the time I--and to put it another way, I don't need the other 3 days. It is, I understand, for people who have business appointments or other things and maybe they would, but that is not the case.

Mr. Hubert.

Will you stand and raise your right hand. Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Mr. Pierce.

I do.

Mr. Hubert.

Will you tell me your full name?

Mr. Pierce.

Edward Eugene Pierce.

Mr. Hubert.

What is your age, sir?

Mr. Pierce.

45.

Mr. Hubert.

And your residence?

Mr. Pierce.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

What is your residence? Where do you live?

Mr. Pierce.

I thought you said, "Resident," sir. 1726 Michigan.

Mr. Hubert.

What is your occupation, sir?

Mr. Pierce.

Building and maintenance employee at the city hall.

Mr. Hubert.

How long have you been so employed?

Mr. Pierce.

5 years, almost exactly.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, were you on duty in the city hall and police building on Sunday, November 24?

Mr. Pierce.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

What time did you come on duty?

Mr. Pierce.

7 o'clock.

Mr. Hubert.

What time did you leave?

Mr. Pierce.

Almost exactly 3 o'clock, 5 or 6 or 8 minutes, probably, after 3, because after 3 o'clock I was no more on duty, as far duty, which is 3 o'clock, and as far as my actual building, I wanted to look around and see what was taking place, so, probably 7 or 8 minutes after 3 when I actually drove out of the basement area.

Mr. Hubert.

What were your duties, functions and responsibilities in your position on that day while you were on duty with respect to both buildings, to wit, the municipal building and the police building?

Mr. Pierce.

You covered a lot of ground there. To actually be one-half percent accurate, I would nearly need the civil service breakdown of that job responsibility, because you covered all of it. Well, for all practical purposes, the operation of the city hall and its maintenance is a 24-hour a day operation. Consequently, we have three shifts--and they have to use some of the personnel, too, as building engineers, see. If they want one of us they page the building engineer. Actually, we aren't the building engineers. We are merely responsible for the building maintenance and operation of the two buildings, which are joined together on a 24-hour a day basis.

Mr. Hubert.

So, that on November 24----

Mr. Pierce.

I reported for my----

Mr. Hubert.

You were the man in charge of maintenance and operation of both buildings on the shifts from 7 until 3 that afternoon?

Mr. Pierce.

And I was the only one there. That responsibility is handled by what is called our building operator because of air-conditioning equipment that must be maintained and operated for both buildings, and we are equipment