Mr. Fuqua.

Yes; on around right from the Harwood side.

Mr. Hubert.

How did you get out of the municipal building, sir?

Mr. Fuqua.

You mean after the----

Mr. Hubert.

No; when you and Riggs left. First of all, what time was it, about, when you left the municipal building to go out and around----

Mr. Fuqua.

Seemed to me that it must have been 10 or after.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you think it was as late as 11?

Mr. Fuqua.

No; I don't think it was that late.

Mr. Hubert.

Let me put it another way. When you left Servance and Pierce and the others, at the Commerce Street entrance and you and Riggs decided to go and watch on television and you left for the municipal building, how long was it before the shooting.

Mr. Fuqua.

Oh, it wasn't over 10 or 15 minutes at the most. I doubt if it was that long, because we walked slowly along The street there and where these two officers were on the Main Street side, and just walked on around slowly, around the Harwood side, and looked down the ramp, and by the time we found out it wasn't--that it wasn't going to on television and came back-- --

Mr. Hubert.

And that is about the time the shot was fixed?

Mr. Fuqua.

Right.

Mr. Hubert.

How long were you in the locker room?

Mr. Fuqua.

I think, sir, we were long enough--I think Riggs bought a can of chili and beans or something he bought.

Mr. Hubert.

And he had a chance to eat it?

Mr. Fuqua.

He just walked on back up the stairs. We was laughing, we got to wondering what he did with the can when he got back up, because I guess just before he finished it, well, that is what happened.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know a man by the name of Jack Ruby?

Mr. Fuqua.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

You have seen pictures of him in the paper, of course?

Mr. Fuqua.

Right.

Mr. Hubert.

When you were walking along Main Street there and past the Main Street ramp, did you see him along Main Street or anywhere in the crowd?

Mr. Fuqua.

No, sir. I don't remember him.

Mr. Hubert.

You would have passed there, you think, about 10 minutes before the shooting?

Mr. Fuqua.

Something about like that, about 10 minutes before the shooting.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, what door did you use to get out of the municipal building?

Mr. Fuqua.

Well, see, the elevator coming---you know, the service elevator, it has got a front and rear door, and we punched it and went through the elevator.

Mr. Hubert.

When you punched it it opened the rear door?

Mr. Fuqua.

That's what happened, right.

Mr. Hubert.

So, it made like a little hallway with the elevator being the hall, that is with the two doors of the elevator opened?

Mr. Fuqua.

Right. You go straight through, because whenever the elevator is on the first floor lots of people want to use the elevator, they say, "Let me go through the back door."

Mr. Hubert.

In other words, you got into the elevator door and the municipal building side of the elevator was open?

Mr. Fuqua.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And you punched the door on the other side of the elevator which opened that door so that you could get to the corridor leading to the alleyway?

Mr. Fuqua.

All the controls are on one side.

Mr. Hubert.

But, in any case, you remember that the back door to the elevator, that is, to say, the elevator door on the alleyway side was closed, and you had to punch a button to open it up?

Mr. Fuqua.

Right.

Mr. Hubert.

And then how did you get out of the back door that leads to the alleyway?

Mr. Fuqua.

Riggs opened up that door.

Mr. Hubert.

Where did he get a key from? Do you remember?

Mr. Fuqua.

Key, see the key usually hangs up in the elevator there. It is a string of keys on a stick.