Mr. Hubert.

you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Mr. Phenix.

I do.

Mr. Hubert.

Will you please state your name?

Mr. Phenix.

George R. Phenix.

Mr. Hubert.

And your age?

Mr. Phenix.

Twenty-five.

Mr. Hubert.

Where do you live?

Mr. Phenix.

2550 Klondike.

Mr. Hubert.

What is your occupation?

Mr. Phenix.

I am a reporter--cameraman.

Mr. Hubert.

What station?

Mr. Phenix.

KRLD.

Mr. Hubert.

That's a Dallas station?

Mr. Phenix.

Right.

Mr. Hubert.

How long have you been so employed?

Mr. Phenix.

Since the middle of October.

Mr. Hubert.

What was your occupation prior to that time?

Mr. Phenix.

Reporter for the magazine Texas Municipal League, an organization of Texas towns and city of the magazine Austin.

Mr. Hubert.

Are you a college graduate?

Mr. Phenix.

No; doggone it--no. I lack three courses. I have been in college for a long time.

Mr. Hubert.

Where did you study?

Mr. Phenix.

Texas Tech and Texas University--Journalism and advertising.

Mr. Hubert.

Were you on duty with KRLD on November 24, 1963?

Mr. Phenix.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

What function were you performing on that day with reference to your occupation?

Mr. Phenix.

My assignment was to cover Oswald as they brought him out from the police department, cover him, and Just to get film on it.

Mr. Hubert.

In other words, you were to operate a film camera and you had nothing to do with the television part of it at all?

Mr. Phenix.

None at all.

Mr. Hubert.

Did KRLD have television machines down there?

Mr. Phenix.

Right--we had a live camera set up there.

Mr. Hubert.

But your operation was not in connection with that?

Mr. Phenix.

No--there are really two distinct operations--they are a production crew, the same crew that handles a TV show in the studio, and I don't even know how to operate their cameras.

Mr. Hubert.

What you were operating was a hand camera, is that correct?

Mr. Phenix.

Well, it's a little larger than a hand camera but generally it is operated on a battery pack.

Mr. Hubert.

Perhaps for the record you might, if you can, give the technical description of the camera you were using that day.

Mr. Phenix.

Well, it's an Auricon, 16 mm. sound camera and it is equipped with a 400-foot magazine, operated--a hand camera is normally hand wound-this is power driven by a battery, and it had a microphone and it was braced on a unipod, a single pole.

Mr. Hubert.

It is held by the hand and balanced that way?

Mr. Phenix.

By the hand when it is on a unipod. Normally it is usually either on a tripod or a shoulder harness and it weighs about 40 pounds I imagine.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, on the 24th of November how were you operating it--on a tripod?

Mr. Phenix.

On unipod---on a unipod.

Mr. Hubert.

By that, I take it it is a single stick, is it not?

Mr. Phenix.

Right.

Mr. Hubert.

It is adjustable for distance from the ground?

Mr. Phenix.

Yes, sir--I believe there are three adjustments you can make.

Mr. Hubert.

It serves to steady the camera?

Mr. Phenix.

Right.