Mr. Griffin.

In this area here is the parking area of the garage. Here is the Police Department Building. Here is the jail office. This is the hallway that comes out from the public elevators near Harwood Street so that. if you enter from Harwood you come down to this area, and you go up in the elevators here and walk through this hallway through some double doors, and you would be in the ramp area at the bottom of the basement floor.
Now can you, taking your pen, at the time you took your position on the railing, would you show us where the TV cameras were placed? Can you mark that in rectangles of some sort?

Mr. Beers.

[Marking on map.] These were live TV cameras that I have marked on the east side of the railing, and there was a sound on-film cameraman leaning against the railing right there [pointing].

Mr. Griffin.

Now this sound on-film camera, is this something that requires a tripod of some sort?

Mr. Beers.

It may or may not.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall if that one did?

Mr. Beers.

He had a monopod or a unapod, which is a single leg support for the camera.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you know who that man was?

Mr. Beers.

Mr. George Phenix with KRLD-TV.

Mr. Griffin.

Can you put a figure 1, at the spot on the railing where you stationed yourself first?

Mr. Beers.

Right here. Actually on the railing [marking.]

Mr. Griffin.

You have crossed out one mark and you made a big circle which you blacked in, on the railing.

Mr. Beers.

May I draw an arrow to point where I was standing?

Mr. Griffin.

Okay.

Mr. Beers.

So it will be much clearer.

Mr. Griffin.

What time would you estimate it was when you stationed yourself at point 1?

Mr. Beers.

Probably 9:15 or 9:20.

Mr. Griffin.

How long did you remain at that position?

Mr. Beers.

According to the time which we received, and which Mr. Ruby shot Mr. Oswald, which would be somewhere around 11:21, or thereabouts, I probably remained there until about 11:25.

Mr. Griffin.

So you remained there right at that spot right up until the shooting?

Mr. Beers.

And through the shooting and for a few moments thereafter.

Mr. Griffin.

I see.

Mr. Beers.

A few minutes thereafter.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall an automobile moving out of the ramp? I mean out of the garage area and going up the Main Street ramp shortly before Mr. Oswald was shot?

Mr. Beers.

Yes; there was an armored car parked in the driveway near the top of the Commerce Street entrance, and there was a black squad car, I believe I am correct, that backed up the ramp to Main Street in the direction of Main Street. I didn't look right up there and see what he did. He never came back down the ramp.

Mr. Griffin.

This is a car that you recall driving onto Main Street?

Mr. Beers.

It backed up onto Main Street, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

I see.

Mr. Beers.

It backed from the basement and backed up Main Street toward what would be the entrance way to the ramp.

Mr. Griffin.

Before that car was moved, was backed up onto the Main Street ramp, do you recall any car driving in a forward direction up the Main Street ramp?

Mr. Beers.

No; I don't.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall how much traffic there was in and out of the basement while you were stationed there?

Mr. Beers.

There was several police cars that came into the basement and I don't recall that there were any other squad cars that came into the basement.