Mr. Hubert.

Of course, you have seen pictures of him since, I take it?

Mr. Stevenson.

Oh, yes.

Mr. Hubert.

While you were at the hospital, and I would like you to state if you can, the time you arrived there, did you see Jack Ruby at any place around the hospital ?

Mr. Stevenson.

No, I did not. In fact, I did not get out of the car. I sat in the car by the radio while Chief Batchelor walked into the hospital to see if we could be of any further assistance.

Mr. Hubert.

That was about what time that you arrived there, Mr. Stevenson?

Mr. Stevenson.

I would say we arrived at the hospital around 1:40.

Mr. Hubert.

All right, then go on.

Mr. Stevenson.

After we reached Love Field, the Secret Service men loaded the casket onto the President's plane. They told us that they had called Judge Sarah T. Hughes to administer the oath of office to President Johnson.
She arrived in a short time. We remained at Love Field until she administered the oath and the plane was airborne. After the President's plane was airborne, we left and came back to the city hall. We arrived back at the city hall around 4 o'clock, I would say.

Mr. Hubert.

When you say city hall, do you mean police department ?

Mr. Stevenson.

Police Courts Building, our headquarters.

Mr. Hubert.

For the record, I wish you would describe the relationship between what is the police building and the municipal building of the city hall.

Mr. Stevenson.

The Police and Courts Building is what was, until a few years ago, the city hall proper. A new building was constructed adjacent to this building and adjoining it just east of the Police and Courts Building. It is now ordinarily referred to as the city hall, the building which is on the corner of Main, Harwood and Commerce, which is the old city hall, now known as the Police and Courts Building, and houses the jail, the police department, and one or two offices of our city government. But primarily it is referred to, or should be referred to as the Police and Courts Building.

Mr. Hubert.

All right. Now, go on. So you arrived back at the police department.

Mr. Stevenson.

We arrived back at the office about 4 o'clock, or maybe a few minutes later. I went directly to the homicide bureau. Chief Batchelor went to the administrative offices. Before leaving the Trade Mart, I had gotten information through Captain Souter that the suspect in the shooting of Officer Tippit had been arrested. On the air on the way to the hospital, we heard several squads being dispatched to Texas Theatre. I asked the dispatcher what we had working at Texas Theatre, and he advised me that it was the suspect who had shot Officer Tippit, that he had been arrested at the Texas Theatre.

At that time I advised them that Chief Batchelor and myself, or "2" and "3," as I told him, which are our call numbers, were en route to Parkland Hospital and would be in the area and back to the office as soon as possible. When I arrived back at the city hall I went to the homicide bureau to see what progress on our investigation was made, I was advised that Oswald had definitely been identified in murder of Officer Tippit.

Mr. Hubert.

Who advised you of this?

Mr. Stevenson.

Lieutenant Wells in the homicide office.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you see Oswald at that time?

Mr. Stevenson.

No, sir; I didn't; he was being interviewed, but I did not see him.

Mr. Hubert.

Who was interviewing him?

Mr. Stevenson.

Captain Fritz and some FBI agent, I don't know who, and I believe a Secret Service agent.

Mr. Hubert.

Are you aware now of a message that had been sent by the FBI to the Dallas Police Department concerning the security of Oswald?

Mr. Stevenson.

Not at that time, no, sir. That was Friday afternoon?

Mr. Hubert.

Yes; but you didn't learn that Mr. Hoover had sent word that great care should be taken for the security?

Mr. Stevenson.

Not at that time, I had not; no, sir.