I Want to hand you here, chief, a diagram of the inside of the basement garage area. Do you have a pencil or anything that you can mark with?
Chief BATCHELOR. Yes. The camera---can I mark here ?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.
Chief BATCHELOR. The camera was sitting right here.

Mr. Griffin.

Would you put a "C" there so we know it is a camera.
Chief BATCHELOR. [Complies.]

Mr. Griffin.

Now, what television station had this camera there?
Chief BATCHELOR. It was KRLD.

Mr. Griffin.

What makes you think it was KRLD ?
Chief BATCHELOR. I just seem to recall that in my mind the letters on the side of the camera. I could be wrong. It could have been a WBAP camera.

Mr. Griffin.

Was the camera manned ?
Chief BATCHELOR. No, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

Were there any other people in the basement area at that time?
Chief BATCHELOR. No, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

Who was it that you instructed to move the camera?
Chief BATCHELOR. I didn't instruct anybody at that moment. We merely commented it was going to be moved, but instructed it to be moved later when we came back down.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, What did you do after you passed the camera ?
Chief BATCHELOR. Went up to the office.

Mr. Griffin.

How did you go?
Chief BATCHELOR. Went through the basement and into the elevator and went up.

Mr. Griffin.

You went up to the third floor ?
Chief BATCHELOR. Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

To your office. Do you remember what conversation you had with Chief Stevenson along the way?
Chief BATCHELOR. Well, we were commenting about that camera and that they were going to have to move it, and we were going to have to man that basement. But at the moment, plans hadn't jelled as to when we would move him. Actually, back in our minds, I suppose, was the idea that when the time came, that the sheriffs department would probably move him, because this is customary in moving a prisoner. They normally come down and get the prisoner.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you discuss with Chief Stevenson anywhere along the way upstairs this phone call which you received from Mr. Talbert earlier in the morning?
Chief BATCHELOR. Yes; I think I mentioned that to him.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you remember anything about that conversation?
Chief BATCHELOR. Not anything especially.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall whether he knew or Stevenson knew at the time you saw him down in the basement that there had been such a threat?
Chief BATCHELOR. I believe he did. I think someone from one of his bureaus had called him, if I remember right. It was rather common knowledge that a call like that had been received.

Mr. Griffin.

As you walked to the elevator in the basement, do you recall whether or not there were any people in the basement?
Chief BATCHELOR. No; I don't remember anybody except those people in the jail office.

Mr. Griffin.

The people in the jail office were employees of the jail?
Chief BATCHELOR. They were the jail crew that stay on all night long; yes. Not the all night. These would have been the morning shift just come on.

Mr. Griffin.

At what time did that morning shift come on ?
Chief BATCHELOR. At 7 o'clock.

Mr. Griffin.

Chief, would. you take this diagram and mark on there the time that you believe you saw that camera? Chief BATCHELOR. [Marks.]

Mr. Griffin.

I am marking this, "Dallas, Tex., Chief Batchelor, March 23, 1964, Deposition Exhibit No. 5000."

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