Mr. Decker.

Yes; and I called that office and I talked to a man whom I believe to be Frazier, is that correct?
I don't know the gentleman only there by telephone conversation.

Mr. Hubert.

You, yourself, talked to him and told him what you had heard?

Mr. Decker.

I told him what I had heard and talked to him about the transfer, and I even went so far as to advise McCoy to call in a pair of my supervisory personnel to stand by my office, that should they decide to transfer this man, they would be available and we would have the other men moved in there to make it secure to have the security.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you make any suggestions that he be moved earlier than the time that had been announced ?

Mr. Decker.

I did. I suggested to get the man on down to the lower end of Main Street.

Mr. Hubert.

Before the time announced?

Mr. Decker.

Yes; then.

Mr. Hubert.

Who did you say that to--Frazier?

Mr. Decker.

I'm sure I told it to Frazier and I'm sure there was one or somebody in Fritz' office--I don't remember whether it was Baker or Wells, I talked to one of those persons.

Mr. Hubert.

That was when you got this call from the FBI ?

Mr. Decker.

When I got this call from my night sergeant.

Mr. Hubert.

It was still nighttime?

Mr. Decker.

Yes--it was in the morning--12:30 in the morning.

Mr. Hubert.

It was your suggestion that he should be moved immediately?

Mr. Decker.

I felt that he should be moved--yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

What reply did you get?

Mr. Decker.

They stated that they were going to ask him if he wouldn't feel better to talk to his superiors and see what could be done. He called me back shortly and stated that he had had no success in contacting them, and I think that was about the extent of our conversation. I kept my men, my supervisory personnel standing by in the event that they did Change their timing or anything and notified us. I asked him if he had any success to call me and that we would make arrangements to take care of the prisoner either way, and I meant by that that we would transfer him or whatever was necessary to be done.

Mr. Hubert.

At this point let me ask you: When a man is transferred to your custody, may he thereafter be interviewed by the city police?

Mr. Decker.

Anybody who wishes to.

Mr. Hubert.

So that Captain Fritz and others could have continued their investigation ?

Mr. Decker.

It's not customary for them to bring a prisoner down until they have finished their investigation in the city.

Mr. Hubert.

I understand that, but the transfer to you would not have cut off their opportunity to investigate ?

Mr. Decker.

Oh, no-no--it wouldn't have cut it off to anybody--any law enforcing agency. Just the same as Ruby, Ruby has been interviewed in my jail by city police, the FBI agents, and incidentally may I ask you a question?

Mr. Hubert.

Well

Mr. Decker.

If you can answer it, all well and good--I can't. I keep getting information here that we are going to have you people you people are going to attempt to interview this prisoner that I have now, and if that is correct, why of course I would like to make some provisions to talk to somebody before it happens. Of course, it will take a court order for me to move him, which
of course you know is no trouble to obtain--you know that.

Mr. Hubert.

I Can't comment on that.

Mr. Decker.

Don't, if you can't, sir--it's all right, but of course I am leaving that with you that I would like to have some advance knowledge. You can comment on that--that you will do it if you have any knowledge.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, I'm sure if such a decision is made by the people who are authorized to make it, that they will cooperate with you in every way possible.