Mr. Dean.

I was assigned to this location. So I would say it would have been about 4 or 5 months after I was transferred to the downtown area that I met Jack Ruby.

Mr. Griffin.

How long were you assigned to that downtown area ?

Mr. Dean.

About a year and a half.

Mr. Griffin.

And were you a sergeant at that time?

Mr. Dean.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you have any men working under your direction?

Mr. Dean.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

How many men worked under your direction down there?

Mr. Dean.

Well, it would vary from the hours that I worked, from 12 to 17 or 17 men, depending on the hours. Twelve regular men, or 13 regular men.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, was Vaughn under your direction at that time?

Mr. Dean.

No, sir. Vaughn has never worked for me directly.

Mr. Griffin.

How about Nelson ?

Mr. Dean.

No, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

How about Bobby Patterson?

Mr. Dean.

Yes, sir. Patterson worked for me when I was assigned to the area in the 100, district 100, in the downtown area.

Mr. Griffin.

And was that the area that Jack Ruby's nightclub was in?

Mr. Dean.

Patterson occasionally worked on the district that Ruby's Carousel Club was on. Not as a regular man.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you know if Patterson was friendly with Ruby?

Mr. Dean.

No, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

You just don't know ?

Mr. Dean.

I don't know.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you consider yourself a friend of Patterson's?

Mr. Dean.

Not intimately; no, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you see Patterson on a social basis ?

Mr. Dean.

No, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

Does Patterson still work under your direction ?

Mr. Dean.

No, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

Whose direction is he under now?

Mr. Dean.

Sergeant Jennings, W. G. Jennings. He is still assigned to that area. Not the specific district that the Carousel was on, or has been on, but let's see--I don't recall exactly what district he is assigned to; 103 I believe.

Mr. Griffin.

Go ahead, if there is anything else. Incidentally, on this date. have we turned the page on that? The date there, why don't you make a correction as to what you think it is, and if you feel, when you check your notes, that you want to correct it even more exactly, why you can be free to do it [indicating].

Mr. Dean.

I would like to clarify this one thing. "On occasions when driving In the area with another officer, he would go up to the Carousel, usually once or twice a week." This is true, as far as once or twice a week, and sometimes three times a week. However, this--with another officer is erroneous. Usually it would be with some friend of mine that would be riding with me, rather than another officer.

Mr. Griffin.

Okay. Why don't you put that down ?

Mr. Dean.

Mutual friend or

Mr. Griffin.

This would be somebody that would be interested in sort of riding with the police officer, like newspaper reporters do ?

Mr. Dean.

Yes, sir. "In addition, Dean said he had gone to the club while off duty on four occasions." I would say four would be the outside, but I think I have been there only three times since I have known him, since 1960 or 1961 [indicating].

Mr. Griffin.

Why don't you change that, then. When is the time you were there most recently?

Mr. Dean.

The last time I had been in his place was---well, we will say relative to the shooting, I haven't been in there since, and I think 6 or 8 months before would be the last time I had been in there, and in fact, that long since I had seen Ruby.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you know any of Ruby's employees ?

Mr. Dean.

By name. No, sir.