Mr. Hubert.

Did he make any statement to you as to why he had done it?

Mr. Clardy.

He said--no, somebody--I was going to ask him and I am sure some other officer asked him as to why. He said, "Somebody had to do it You all couldn't."

Mr. Hubert.

Is that the only explanation he offered?

Mr. Clardy.

Well, later on we talked to him a little further and he went into this long story about how much he thought of President Kennedy, and how he was remorseful. Didn't want Mrs. Kennedy to have to some to testify on trial, and

Mr. Hubert.

Did he say anything here to indicate that he had any accomplices in his act?

Mr. Clardy.

No, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Did he mention to you that he had been to the Western Union that morning?

Mr. Clardy.

Yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Did he say anything about where his car was?
Mr. CLARDY. Yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Did he say anything about there being a dog in it ?
Mr. CLARDY. Sir, I recall that he said there was some money in the car. I don't recall him saying it in my presence, about the dog being in it. I do recall that he talked later about some dogs that he had that he thought so much of.

Mr. Hubert.

All right, now, a bit earlier when I asked you whether or not there were any omissions from the documents, Exhibits Non. 5061, 5062, and 5063, you indicated there was an omission concerning what had been said to you by some people who had talked to you. I think that is what the omission--it was something along that line. Do you recall what that was now?

Mr. Clardy.

Well, I think some of the stuff that we have gone into 'there that you have asked me as to some of the things that were said, or on down the line that I don't--I don't recall any of the FBI agents asking me who come up there and talked to him, whether they did or not, I don't know.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, can you tell me what you had in mind a little while ago in the deposition when you said, "Yes, this is all right, but there has been omitted something," and I told you at that time, "Well, we'll come back to it a bit later," and now, I am coming back to it. I was wondering just what you had in mind when you stated that there had been an omission ?

Mr. Clardy.

I don't believe it is in that report that Secret Service agent, Mr. Sorrels, came up shortly after we arrived and talked to Mr. Ruby.

Mr. Hubert.

I think that--

Mr. Clardy.

Whether that is in there or not

Mr. Hubert.

Is that what you had in mind ?

Mr. Clardy.

That and the FBI agent, Mr. Hall, then came up and talked to Ruby off and on until the time that he was taken to Captain Fritz' office.

Mr. Hubert.

How long a period was that?

Mr. Clardy.

Sir, he was up there probably within 15 to 20 minutes after we had taken Mr. Ruby upstairs. Agent Hall was, and he talked to Mr. Ruby at considerable length until he had several telephone calls. I don't know who they were from or what they was about, but, that he was called to the telephone several times while he was up there.

Mr. Hubert.

And Mr. Sorrels was present also?

Mr. Clardy.

Mr. Sorrels had left before Mr. Hall come up there. Sorrels had talked briefly to Mr. Ruby. I say, "briefly," he approximately 10 minutes.

Mr. Hubert.

Let's see if I can get the time sequence. Within 15 minutes after Ruby was brought to the top--to the fifth floor, Mr. Hall came?

Mr. Clardy.

Uh-huh.

Mr. Hubert.

And interviewed him, with some interruptions by telephone calls, for approximately what, now, an hour and a half?

Mr. Clardy.

I'd say Mr. Hall was up there 3 1/2 hours.

Mr. Hubert.

Three and a haft hours.

Mr. Clardy.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Now,-in the 15 minutes or so before Mr. Hall came, Mr. Sorrels