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(Testimony of Don Ray Archer)
Mr. Archer.
Yes, sir, I searched him. I did remove some personal property. I recall a large roll of money and perhaps some change. I'm not sure about that. The main thing I remember was the large roll of money.
Mr. Hubert.
What did you do with the property you took from his person?
Mr. Archer.
We had been there before I started removing any personal property; well, I searched him by feeling of him, you know, feeling for any weapons first, and then one of the other Jailers, uniformed jail officers, Haake, came up and what personal property I took out of his pockets, I handed right over to him. I didn't bother to itemize it or anything else, because that is their job, not ours, and---
Mr. Hubert.
You didn't make an inventory of his property?
Mr. Archer.
I didn't; no, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
You just handed it over to another man ?
Mr. Archer.
Yes, sir; I did.
Mr. Hubert.
Did you talk to Ruby then?
Mr. Archer.
Yes, sir; we did.
Mr. Hubert.
What did he say?
Mr. Archer.
During--after we as I began searching him, making the general search of him, as we were standing there I said--I had seen Oswald on the floor in the jail office after he had been brought in there and I looked at him, and to me he looked like he was dead. Of course, I couldn't say he was dead, but I am saying that to me he looked like he was dead, and I said to Ruby at that time, "Jack I think you killed him," and he Just looked at me right straight in
the eye and said, "Well, I intended to shoot him three times."
Mr. Hubert.
Did you know Jack Ruby?
Mr. Archer.
No, sir; I didn't know him. I wouldn't recognize the man if I saw him on the street. I do--I knew of him. I had heard the name before. I did have I did recollect that he had been handled by the department, but I never arrested him, and I had never seen him.
Mr. Hubert.
But, you knew the name was Jack Ruby, though?
Mr. Archer.
Sir?
Mr. Hubert.
You knew the name was Jack Ruby, though ?
Mr. Archer.
I didn't know the name was Jack Ruby other than he told me his name was Jack Ruby.
Mr. Hubert.
Now, I am handing two documents, which I'm identifying as follows, to wit: One document apparently is a copy of a statement dated November 27, 1964, addressed to Chief Curry, apparently signed by you, which I am marking, "Dallas, Tex., March 25, 1964. Exhibit No. 5092, deposition of D. R. Archer," I have signed it on the first page, and I have initialed the second page by marking my initials on the lower right-hand corner, and another document which I have marked in the right margin, "Dallas, Tex., March 25, 1964. Exhibit 5093, deposition of D. R. Archer," and I have signed my name below that, and put my initials on the second page, bottom right-hand corner. And I would like you to examine those exhibits, please, and then after you have done so, I wish to ask you some questions about them.
Mr. Archer.
Now, then-
Mr. Hubert.
Have you read both of them ?
Mr. Archer.
I have read this one [indicating].
Mr. Hubert.
Well
Mr. Archer.
You want me to read
Mr. Hubert.
Yes; read both of them.
Mr. Archer.
All right. All right, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Now, you have read the exhibits we have marked 5092 and 5093. Now, I will ask you if those statements contain the truth as you knew it?
Mr. Archer.
Yes, sir; with one correction here in this statement that is headed by "Federal Bureau of Investigation".
Mr. Hubert.
I think you will find that that is Exhibit 5093.
Mr. Archer.
5093, yes, sir. It is not correct when it states that I remained with Ruby until approximately 3 p.m. I believe that that was 3:30 p.m., as stated in my report. As I recall, when I was interviewed by the gentleman, I did say 3:30. Now, like I say, it could be my error, could be theirs, but
Mr. Hubert.
Were there any omissions from, of fact from those statements?
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